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This discussion revolves around the concept of daily learning, where participants share various facts and insights they have recently discovered. Key topics include the woodworking technique "oyster veneering," the mathematical fact that 23! equals 25,852,016,738,884,976,640,000, and the medical terms "hyperacusis" and "diplacusis." Participants also touch on humorous observations about life, such as the impact of television on weight and the emotional sensitivity of Barn Owls.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic mathematical concepts, specifically factorials.
  • Familiarity with woodworking techniques, particularly historical methods like oyster veneering.
  • Knowledge of medical terminology related to hearing, such as hyperacusis and diplacusis.
  • Awareness of cultural references, including the significance of historical events and figures like Muhammad Ali.
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  • Research the historical context and revival of oyster veneering in woodworking.
  • Explore advanced mathematical concepts related to factorials and their applications.
  • Investigate the medical conditions hyperacusis and diplacusis, including their causes and treatments.
  • Learn about the emotional behaviors of animals, particularly Barn Owls and their sensitivity.
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This discussion is beneficial for woodworking enthusiasts, mathematicians, medical professionals, and animal behaviorists, as well as anyone interested in the quirky facts of daily life.

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jack action said:
But I already paid for that fuel and that staff.
Sure - I should have said "they spend more money than they needed to".

I'm not defending them. Their pricing system is stupid.
 
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berkeman said:
Europe is back on Standard Time already?
UK on BST till 29.10.23
 
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pinball1970 said:
UK on BST till 29.10.23
What does it change to then? British Daylight Time? :oops:
 
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berkeman said:
What does it change to then? British Daylight Time? :oops:
Greenwich Mean Time.
 
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If the airline can intimidate/coerce you into buying a one way ticket for more money than the round trip then they make more money. It is a rational profit-maximizing practice.
 
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TIL I learned that during a 1989 concert Peter Townsend impaled his right hand on the whammy bar of a Fender Stratocaster. When right through his palm. The doctors told him he was very lucky to avoid permanent damage. He was able to continue the tour.

 
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pinball1970 said:
TIL Nobel for physics 2023 is announced tomo

No sound yet. Love the fact they just sit on the floor like students. Cant remember the last time I sat on the floor, probably when I was a student.
 
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pinball1970 said:
No sound yet. Love the fact they just sit on the floor like students. Cant remember the last time I sat on the floor, probably when I was a student.
In Tokyo concerts for young people often have no chairs, just a concrete floor. This allows more people to be packed in there, and sometimes they are indeed packed with maybe a thousand viewers. I can't stand up on concrete that long so I'd resort to the floor.
 
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Today I learned that it appears that redheads need more anaesthetic. https://www.healthline.com/health/redheads-and-anesthesia

Anesthesiologists are starting to take this into account but are doing so naively. They may overly dose patients with hair dyed red and underdose redheads whose hair has turned grey.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Come on. The oldest human in the world is barely 120.
 
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Ibix said:
I really struggle to imagine a contract term saying "you paid for services A and B, and if you only use A we can punish you" being enforceable. Doesn't mean they don't write such a term, of course, and challenging one might be more risky than it's worth.

I think they may have to request fuel volumes before they know people haven't turned up. So they end up carrying more fuel than they need, which is more delay during refueling and more weight in flight (and therefore fuel use) than they need. If no-showing is particularly rampant they may have more flights than they need, and/or more staff on duty.

It all stems from their bizarre pricing structure, of course, but large scale no-shows probably do cost them money.
I believe that it is a mechanism to "segment the market". It is part and parcel of other mechanisms aimed at the same goal (advance purchase, standby fares, weekend and holiday rates, round trip around a weekend). In general, you want to give price breaks to the passengers who are price sensitive or are shopping around and not give price breaks to passengers who are not price sensitive or have no choice.

The classic case is an airline that has a hub in B. They have no or few competitors in B.

The airline can charge high rates for a flight from A to B. They are the only carrier that can service the route. But when taking passengers from A to C, another carrier with a hub in B' (B prime) can compete. The airline must reduce its fare or lose business.

In this case "segmenting the market" means locking A to B passengers into the A to B fare while allowing A to C passengers to use the lower A to C fare.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
I believe that it is a mechanism to "segment the market". It is part and parcel of other mechanisms aimed at the same goal (advance purchase, standby fares, weekend and holiday rates, round trip around a weekend). In general, you want to give price breaks to the passengers who are price sensitive or are shopping around and not give price breaks to passengers who are not price sensitive or have no choice.

The classic case is an airline that has a hub in B. They have no or few competitors in B.

The airline can charge high rates for a flight from A to B. They are the only carrier that can service the route. But when taking passengers from A to C, another carrier with a hub in B' (B prime) can compete. The airline must reduce its fare or lose business.

In this case "segmenting the market" means locking A to B passengers into the A to B fare while allowing A to C passengers to use the lower A to C fare.
I flew from Guangzhou to Hong Kong to Seattle to Salt Lake City. ABCD. There are plenty of airlines flying from Hong Kong to Seattle [BC] but these are more expensive than Guangzhou to Salt Lake City. [AD}. I think the higher price is because demand is higher and because Hong Kong and Seattle residents have more money than Guangzhou and Salt Lake City travelers.

Airline pricing is done by big computer programs that take all sorts of things into account. They maximize Hong Kong-Seattle income then fill the remaining seats with lower cost connecting flight travelers.
 
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Hornbein said:
"Of the 20 rats examined, eighteen of them showed a preference for Beethoven, and only two showed a preference for Miles Davis. "

The rats preferred silence to Beethoven's Fur Elise. The scientists considered making music that the rats liked but have yet to explore this avenue. They noted that music has an effect on the human brain similar to popular forms of drug abuse. They were able to get the rats to prefer Beethoven over silence by injecting them with a cocaine solution in association with Beethoven's Fur Elise.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3144275/

Hipster rats : Outnumbered!

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Sometimes you hear these horror stories about drugs that if you put a rat in a cage with no access to PE and females they'll get addicted to morphine (wow, really?!). That's why I like this study.

Rat Park (wiki)

It doesn't say anything about musical preferences though.
 
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Wire was first made five thousand years ago.

In some cases, strips cut from metal sheet were made into wire by pulling them through perforations in stone beads. This causes the strips to fold round on themselves to form thin tubes. This strip drawing technique was in use in Egypt by the 2nd Dynasty (c. 2890 – c. 2686 BCE[2]). The oldest record of wire being made for musical instruments is from Augsburg in 1351. -- Wikipedia

I thought it would be very hard to do, but apparently not.
 
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Hornbein said:
Airline pricing is done by big computer programs that take all sorts of things into account. They maximize Hong Kong-Seattle income then fill the remaining seats with lower cost connecting flight travelers.
...and it's probably easier to issue legal threats to people than change the algorithm to close the loopholes.
 
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TIL that Physics Forums is on Facebook. Here's a screen shot

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TIL that Steve Miller has turned 80.
He has made a bunch of good tunes.
Here is one of many:

 
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BillTre said:
TIL that Steve Miller has turned 80.
He has made a bunch of good tunes.
Here is one of many:
80, wow! Time moves swiftly in this place.

I liked their earlier trippy blues tunes, like this:

 
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This is interesting, and a nice advance in technology, IMO. Tonight I was watching an episode of COPS where they used a new portable instrument called "TruNarc" to test a small plastic baggie of suspected narcotics. The TruNarc uses a laser to illuminate the sample (even through the clear baggie, no need to extract a sample), and analyzes the reflected light to determine if the substance is a match for illegal narcotics.

Pretty nice step forward, IMO. I'll need to read more about it to understand the technology used and its limitations.

From TV tonight:

TruNarc on COPS.jpg
And from a web search:

https://www.thermofisher.com/order/catalog/product/TRUNARC
 
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Red Bull was invented in Thailand. In the early days it was banned in Germany.



In Indonesia energy drinks that contain caffeine and nicotine are sold to children mixed with candy. I tried that. I got a case of paranoia until the drug wore off.
 
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berkeman said:
This is interesting, and a nice advance in technology, IMO. Tonight I was watching an episode of COPS where they used a new portable instrument called "TruNarc" to test a small plastic baggie of suspected narcotics. The TruNarc uses a laser to illuminate the sample (even through the clear baggie, no need to extract a sample), and analyzes the reflected light to determine if the substance is a match for illegal narcotics.
What? Hard-nosed cops won't rip the bag open, dunk their pinkie in an unknown powdery substance and taste it anymore??

What a world, what a world.
 
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I'll drink to that! :oldbiggrin:
 
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DaveC426913 said:
What? Hard-nosed cops won't rip the bag open, dunk their pinkie in an unknown powdery substance and taste it anymore??

Fentanyl
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There was some viral videos about secondary fentanyl poisoning cases among cops, but so far those are widely considered fakes
But that won't change the fact that since fentanyl hit the streets tasting unknown suspicious stuff is even less of a good idea than ever before...
 
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Rive said:
Fentanyl
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There was some viral videos about secondary fentanyl poisoning cases among cops, but so far those are widely considered fakes
But that won't change the fact that since fentanyl hit the streets tasting unknown suspicious stuff is even less of a good idea than ever before...
I always thought that was very dodgy.
No way to tell what this white powder is, could be cocaine so lets taste some...what could possibly go wrong?
 
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pinball1970 said:
I always thought that was very dodgy.
No way to tell what this white powder is, could be cocaine so lets taste some...what could possible go wrong?
I only know of it from films and TV shows, and i suspect that goes for all of us.

I did read somewhere a real cop saying it is a ridiculous cliche that no sane cop would ever do.
 
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