Today I Learned

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This discussion revolves around the concept of daily learning, where participants share various facts and insights they have recently discovered. Key topics include the woodworking technique "oyster veneering," the mathematical fact that 23! equals 25,852,016,738,884,976,640,000, and the medical terms "hyperacusis" and "diplacusis." Participants also touch on humorous observations about life, such as the impact of television on weight and the emotional sensitivity of Barn Owls.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic mathematical concepts, specifically factorials.
  • Familiarity with woodworking techniques, particularly historical methods like oyster veneering.
  • Knowledge of medical terminology related to hearing, such as hyperacusis and diplacusis.
  • Awareness of cultural references, including the significance of historical events and figures like Muhammad Ali.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the historical context and revival of oyster veneering in woodworking.
  • Explore advanced mathematical concepts related to factorials and their applications.
  • Investigate the medical conditions hyperacusis and diplacusis, including their causes and treatments.
  • Learn about the emotional behaviors of animals, particularly Barn Owls and their sensitivity.
USEFUL FOR

This discussion is beneficial for woodworking enthusiasts, mathematicians, medical professionals, and animal behaviorists, as well as anyone interested in the quirky facts of daily life.

  • #5,701
fresh_42 said:
A billion times a billion is not a trillion in either scale. Your logic breaks down immediately after your example.
I mean, the logic of long scale is ##10^{6n}## and the logic of short scale is ##10^{3(n+1)}## with ##n## corresponding to whatever the name states, e.g., quadrillion ##n=4##: ##10^{24}## or ##10^{15}## depending.
 
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  • #5,702
If trillion =1012
And billion - 109

That means that the root - illion - equals one thousand, no?

And a million should be called monillion.
 
  • #5,703
I don't suppose there is any chance of ditching the British American thing? That must be confusing to students.

10 to the 6 million
10 to 9 billion?
 
  • #5,704
DaveC426913 said:
And a million should be called monillion.
To be fair, million could very well be a contraction of monillion …
 
  • #5,705
pinball1970 said:
I don't suppose there is any chance of ditching the British American thing?
It was ditched in 1974, as above.

pinball1970 said:
That must be confusing to students.
Not since 1974.
 
  • #5,706
pbuk said:
Not since 1974.
It can still be pretty confusing to people not having English as their first language. Most higher level textbooks will be in English.
 
  • #5,707
TIL about an AI technique called Prompt Injection where a user request can be hijacked similar to SQL injection or Cross-site scripting attacks. In Prompt Injection, a web page could theoretically issue hidden commands to an LLM to ignore the user's request and perform a completely different task. While this isn't currently an issue for ChatGPT which doesn't directly retrieve pages from the internet, this could be a big deal as LLMs start reaching out live to web sites in the future.
Damn it. :doh:
 
  • #5,709
Way too many bugs for birds and other predators to eat during their short period of availability.
Which is why this life cycle strategy is thought to have evolved.

I was around when a bunch came out in Maryland when I was a kid.
I always thought they made flying saucer sounds.
 
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BillTre said:
I was around when a bunch came out in Maryland when I was a kid.
I always thought they made flying saucer sounds.
Me too, although I wasn't a kid when they came out. I was there for it twice.

Once had one of the ()#@**@(# things hit my wing window (back when cars HAD such things) that was angled back to put a breeze on my face and it ricocheted off into my face and scared me half to death. Not a good thing since I was going about 60+ on the Washington Beltway.

My kids were fascinated by them.
 
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I've posted this article before many years ago, but it's always good to post about cicadas. Cicadas are awesome.

The Cicada's Love Affair With Prime Numbers
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https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-cicadas-love-affair-with-prime-numbers

To test this hypothesis, researchers from Brazil’s Universidade Estadual de Campinas used a computer simulation, very similar to John Conway’s Game of Life, in which simulated cicadas and predators battled it out in a hundred-by-hundred-cell matrix. They found exactly what Gould had suggested: cicadas with a prime-numbered life cycle had the most successful evolutionary strategy. If we discount those cicadas with life cycles of ten years or fewer (as being too close to predator life cycles), we find that the most successful emergence rates for cyber cicadas are thirteen and seventeen years—precisely what we find in the wild.
 
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  • #5,712
TIL I'm filling in on a gig, other drummer Ill. Veeerrrry rusty on this set. Wish me luck. On at 8pm
 
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  • #5,713
pinball1970 said:
TIL I'm filling in on a gig, other drummer Ill. Veeerrrry rusty on this set. Wish me luck. On at 8pm
Break a leg! (Is that for musicians too, or only actors? I used to say it before martial arts gradings too :wink:)
 
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This is what nerves look like
 
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TIL that George Carlin's estate is suing a media company (Dudesy) for copyright infringement over an AI generated special they produced.
 
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  • #5,717
TIL that there are places with ##10^{30}## bar. Everywhere.
(The pressure a quark experiences in the center of a proton.)
 
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Oh I thought you were going to say the pressure @pinball1970 is putting on himself
 
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  • #5,719
fresh_42 said:
TIL that there are places with ##10^{30}## bar. Everywhere.
(The pressure a quark experiences in the center of a proton.)
Some say this is the same as the pressure in the center of a neutron star, some say it is ten times more. No one knows the precise radius of any neutron star, so there is some uncertainty. Maybe there is a quark plasma at the center, maybe not.
 
  • #5,720
TIL that a Google search of how much energy Bitcoin uses to exist shows you its an estimated 0.5% of the worlds electricity production. I find that a staggering amount - I am not sure how sound the estimate is.
 
  • #5,721
I read years ago that there was the equivalent of 50 powerplants in China supplying power for all of the bitcoin miners. Whatever the actual value, I'm sure that it's a lot.
 
  • #5,722
A small thing, but I learned that Schroedinger's equation is a diffusion equation and path integral formulation is actually the thought of Norbert Weiner, originally.
 
  • #5,725
TIL that smaller dogs and dogs with longer nose live longer than others.
Not an absolute rule, but a a general trend.
Dogs with short smashed on noses are prone to breathing problems and respiratory infections.
Smaller animals live longer generally.
Females live longer than males.
The effects are generally small, usually under a year to less than 2 year differences in longevity.
NY Times article here.
There is a big list of breeds.
Expect many similar stories in the next few days (popular subject).
Research article here.

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TIL that ...
BillTre said:
... was an invention of German immigrants from Westfalia, and that Phil was originally a badger.
 
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  • #5,727
fresh_42 said:
TIL that ...

... was an invention of German immigrants from Westfalia, and that Phil was originally a badger.
TIL that
a. Badgers are indigenous to my state, and
b. Badgers are indigenous to all continents except South America and Australia

source: wiki image

ps. I love the image creators comment, as it is just too much like how I deal with things; "The inspiration was too confusing, so I recompiled this from a set of existing maps available on the Commons. "
 
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  • #5,729
fresh_42 said:
Btw., did you tell us how it went? Was it like this or more like that?
I tried to post immediately after the gig but I was a bit all over the place i got distracted.
It was A.Sold out and B. Great.
Supporting 'Twin Lizzy' who were really good.
 
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  • #5,730
TIL: Today I listened to a piece of music and I thought: "Sounds like Beethoven but isn't Beethoven." I found Otto Nicolai (symphony in D major), a German composer in the first half of the 19th century who founded the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra.

Life isn't fair. We (Germans) gave Austria Mozart, Beethoven, and the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, and I do not need to mention whom they gave us.
 
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