Today I Learned

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In summary: Today I learned that Lagrange was Italian and that he lamented the execution of Lavoisier in France during the French Revolution with the quote:"It took them only an instant to cut off this head and a hundred years might not suffice to reproduce it's...brains."
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Today I learned that it was nothing like as easy to replace my cooker hood fan motor as I had hoped.

Firstly, the new wires were black, white, red and brown but the old one had blue, black, grey, white (and a circuit diagram inside the hood). On the old one blue = neutral, black = speed 1, grey = speed 2, white = speed 3. From a considerable amount of Googling I eventually came to the provisional conclusion that on the new one red = neutral (!), black = speed 1, white = speed 2, brown = speed 3, which fortunately turned out to be correct (given that there were 23 ways of getting wrong). Secondly, the new one just had bare wires but the old one had crimped spade terminals to fit approx 2.5mm blade contacts on the back of the switch. I ended up breaking the spade terminals off the end of the old wires and soldering the new wires to them. Thirdly, I needed at least 3 hands to put the hood back. I had got half way (using a stack of folding crates to prop things up) when fortunately my wife came home and was able to help. At least it seems to work well.

I had only just got started on it when I somehow ended up chewing a large chunk of tooth, losing about 1/4 of a premolar. Fortunately it doesn't hurt and I've arranged to see a dentist tomorrow morning. By then I'll probably have a hole in my tongue from probing the sharp edge!

And I've got a baroque concerto rehearsal this evening, where I play harpsichord continuo, so I have to take my not-very-portable digital keyboard and carry it between the car park and the church, which is not easy.

I only had time for this because I hadn't yet taken all my vacation for the last year, and the company has a policy of "use it or lose it", so I'm on vacation from today for nearly 3 weeks. I'm beginning to think I'd rather be working. As it is, I expect to have a scary backlog when I return.
 
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Today I learned that unplugging a cable and plugging it right back in can solve many a technical issue.
 
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Drakkith said:
Today I learned that unplugging a cable and plugging it right back in can solve many a technical issue.
Four Microsoft programmers went out to lunch together and the guy who was driving, his car wouldn't start. So they all got out of the car and then got back in again and it started right up.
 
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Drakkith said:
Today I learned that unplugging a cable and plugging it right back in can solve many a technical issue.
I've also noticed a couple of times that just plugging it in in the first place solves some problems.
 
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Drakkith said:
Today I learned that unplugging a cable and plugging it right back in can solve many a technical issue.
phinds said:
I've also noticed a couple of times that just plugging it in in the first place solves some problems.
I simply could not resist posting
USB-Superposition-720c.png
 
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phinds said:
I've also noticed a couple of times that just plugging it in in the first place solves some problems.

Indeed. Much like how eating food solves your hunger problem.

Note: Food doesn't work like cables. Don't try to unplug it and plug it back in. Unless you're a dog (not a joke at Phinds' expense, but could be).
 
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Drakkith said:
Indeed. Much like how eating food solves your hunger problem.
If it would be that easy for everyone...
 
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Yesterday I learned not to underestimate a blackbird's communication skills!

We had some overripe and somewhat battered small bananas which were probably going to be thrown out, but I suggested seeing if the birds would like them, so I chopped one up and put it out on the edge of the patio, next to the lawn. During the day, we saw a couple of blackbirds taking pieces very enthusiastically, and the number of remaining bits went down gradually.

Later in the day, all of the pieces were gone. I then saw a blackbird fly down, look briefly towards the house (presumably to see if I was around), then hop very deliberately towards where the food had been. It then put its head down as if to peck at some invisible food, turned its head both ways as if surprised and wondering where it had gone, then stepped back and stared straight at me, waiting for a while.

When I'd stopped laughing I chopped up and put out another banana, which disappeared much more rapidly than the first.
 
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Yeah, those little boogers are amazingly intelligent. I read about a flock that learned to pick walnuts (I think it was) off of trees and get them open by dropping them on a busy road way then swooping in when there was no traffic to pick up the pieces after they had been "opened" by car tires.
 
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For decades I've been using the current (well, more or less ... due to cost I'm usually several years behind) Microsoft Integrated Development Environment to do all my software development (other that web page HTML). I don't remember what I paid for my "current" version which is Visual Studio 2008 but the retail was something like $500. I've been seriously thinking about upgrading so started checking out prices a few days ago.

Visual Studio 2017 was shown as $499 retail which is about what I expected and I had been figuring I'd have to shell out about that much. Then I saw some entries in Google Search that implied that you could get it free. I dismissed that as being a silly April Fool's joke but there were several entries and it nagged at me so I checked it out and damned if it isn't actually true. I still thought it was some seriously under-powered version, but today I finished doing a small project with it and am fully satisfied that it is the real deal. It is a noticible improvement over my 2008 version (no surprise there) and it REALLY IS FREE to individuals. They charge for the "pro" version and they charge even more for enterprise versions but what they are now calling the "community" version, free even for teams as long as they are no bigger than 5 developers, is more than enough for my needs and definitely more powerful than my 2008 version. Not only that but I can now have it on both my desktop AND my laptop without violating the "1-user" licensing agreement. I never thought I'd see Microsoft giving away serious professional software.

I'm REALLY happy about this ! :smile: :biggrin: :smile: :biggrin:
 
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Today I learned that Avast free antivirus software is better than AVG. In last 2 years, and especially in last few months, my Windows 7 (on a relatively old laptop) was very slow. It was very frustrating. I tried many things to speed it up, but nothing really worked. Finally, on internet I found an advice to uninstall AVG antivirus software and to install Avast instead. It worked! Now my old laptop is reasonably fast again. I'm happy now! :smile:
 
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@phinds regarding Visual Studio, I'm just curious what features of the pro versions you needed, which made it impractical to use the free Express versions?

Also, did you ever try using GNU tools with a free IDE such as Code::Blocks, instead of a Microsoft product?

I'm not asking in any biased way, just curious. Thanks.
 
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phinds said:
Yeah, those little boogers are amazingly intelligent. I read about a flock that learned to pick walnuts (I think it was) off of trees and get them open by dropping them on a busy road way then swooping in when there was no traffic to pick up the pieces after they had been "opened" by car tires.
They even use traffic lights for safety reasons:
 
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Aufbauwerk 2045 said:
@phinds regarding Visual Studio, I'm just curious what features of the pro versions you needed, which made it impractical to use the free Express versions?

Also, did you ever try using GNU tools with a free IDE such as Code::Blocks, instead of a Microsoft product?

I'm not asking in any biased way, just curious. Thanks.
I use MS products for the simple reason that I've used them for about 40 years and see no reason to change. As to VS Pro, I don't even remember WHY I got that but I'm sure there was a reason. I don't use VS 2017 Pro 'cause that DOES cost money. The "community" version is free and does way more than I need.
 
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phinds said:
Visual Studio 2017 was shown as $499 retail which is about what I expected and I had been figuring I'd have to shell out about that much. Then I saw some entries in Google Search that implied that you could get it free. I dismissed that as being a silly April Fool's joke but there were several entries and it nagged at me so I checked it out and damned if it isn't actually true.
[...]
I'm REALLY happy about this ! :smile: :biggrin: :smile: :biggrin:

Aufbauwerk 2045 said:
@phinds regarding Visual Studio, I'm just curious what features of the pro versions you needed, which made it impractical to use the free Express versions?

Microsoft has been giving away a free version of their compilers for a long time -- over a couple of decades now (at least) I'm sure. This is important to know.

Today, the free versions are pretty much the same as, if not identical to, their paid counterparts in terms of their code compiling abilities and most individual oriented IDE features. The differences are mostly that the paid versions have tools that allow easier collaboration with other programmers/software engineers. But if you are programming on your own you would likely never use these additional features anyway. (Oh, the paid versions also include some sort of support if you need to speak directly with Microsoft.)

Here is a link to a comparison between the different versions of Visual Studio 2017.
https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/compare/?icid=VS_Cat-ModD-VS_Compare-030717

Occasionally, even here on PF, I'll whip out a program for whatever reason -- maybe to solve a fun riddle or somesuch -- and I'll sometimes get responses that have a feel to them, "A computer program?! What, are we Mr. Money Bags now?!" But they are free. Given that fact and the ease of obtaining, there is really no excuse for anybody with a computer not to code once in awhile.
 
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collinsmark said:
there is really no excuse for anybody with a computer not to code once in awhile.

hmmmm for an old guy who loved Qbasic and whose assembler days were forty years ago (not Intel)

is there any hope of learning the rudiments of that Studio language ?
 
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jim hardy said:
hmmmm for an old guy who loved Qbasic and whose assembler days were forty years ago (not Intel)

is there any hope of learning the rudiments of that Studio language ?
The problem is that it is NOT a "language", it is an environment and the details go WAY beyond mere language syntax. A lot of your time is spent navigating/using the environment, not directly crafting code. So, not easy but doable I'm sure.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Today I learned that "chasing the dragon" is slang for smoking heroin.
I learned that people on acid lose weight......Can't get to the fridge when a dragon is guarding the bloody thing!
 
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Today I learned that some mathematicians like root beer.
 
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phinds said:
The problem is that it is NOT a "language", it is an environment and the details go WAY beyond mere language syntax. A lot of your time is spent navigating/using the environment, not directly crafting code. So, not easy but doable I'm sure.
Ain't that the truth. I've had Macbooks for 10 years now, and still haven't figured out the Xcode "environment".
But that doesn't stop me. Every year, I create a new "project".
My latest project's name: "nevergiveup".
It would appear that on my last attempt , I learned how to put in a "text box".

2017.04.06.pf.xcode.environment.png


It will probably take me another 5 years to figure out how I did that. :oldconfused: :oldcry:

ps. And just to keep my post somewhat up to date and on topic:

A few days ago I learned:

page 57
Bayes’ theorem
The simplest way to express Bayes’ theorem without using mathematical notation is this:
The posterior is proportional to the prior times the likelihood.
My interpretation:
What will happen is about the same as what happened before.

page 58
Another useful feature of the Bayesian paradigm that is worth mentioning and nicely captured in a simple phrase is:
Today’s posterior* is tomorrow’s prior.
My interpretation:
I told you so!

ref: a primer on BAYESIAN STATISTICS in Health Economics and Outcomes Research
Copyright ® 2003 MEDTAP International, Inc

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*I found it most entertaining looking up the word "posterior", as I, being somewhat base, considered it a metaphor, for "butt", and didn't quite understand what "butts" had to do with statistics.

Anyways, the "non-base" definitions are even more entertaining, as they appear to be somewhat opposites:

pos·te·ri·or
adjective
1. ANATOMY
further back in position​
2. formal
coming after in time or order; later.​

I can see now that being somewhat scientifically literate, I may have overthought the problem.
"coming after in time" means that the posterior is in the front, time-wise.

hmmmm...

as always...

Never mind.
 
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George Jones said:
Today I learned that some mathematicians like root beer.
I can well imagine this.
 
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George Jones said:
Today I learned that some mathematicians like root beer.
fresh_42 said:
I can well imagine this.

Today, in a coffee shop, I was looking up stuff on roots (particular linear functionals on the Cartan subalgebra of a Lie algebra) in the index of the book "Lie Groups, Lie Algebras, and Representations" by Brian Hall, and I found the entries below.

Hall Root Beer.jpg
 
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George Jones said:
Today I learned that some mathematicians like root beer.
Particularly root beer served in a square glass.
 
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George Jones said:
Today, in a coffee shop, I was looking up stuff on roots (particular linear functionals on the Cartan subalgebra of a Lie algebra) in the index of the book "Lie Groups, Lie Algebras, and Representations" by Brian Hall, and I found the entries below.

View attachment 127750
Can you copy p. 325?

And I never thought of "root - [beer] - weight" before. Good there are negative weights, too.

And there's another question I have:
Do you have to visit a basket ball game, if you want to look up Dunking diagrams?

(I once visited a coffee shop with a friend. It was quite crowded so we sat on a table where some economy students already were sitting. My friend placed his book "Integral- and Differential Equations" on the table. ... After ten minutes or so, we had been alone at the table.)
 
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George Jones said:
Today I learned that some mathematicians like root beer.

Three mathematicians walk into a bar...
 
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phinds said:
The problem is that it is NOT a "language", it is an environment and the details go WAY beyond mere language syntax. A lot of your time is spent navigating/using the environment, not directly crafting code. So, not easy but doable I'm sure.
You use the environment because it is faster than just writing code in a plain text editor. You don't have to use all the features VisualStudio has, but it can save a lot of time.
Writing time for code is usually a negligible fraction of the total time needed to create programs (unless you make 10-line projects). Testing, debugging and so on takes the most time. And there IDEs like VisualStudio are so much better than text editors.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Can you copy p. 325

See below. I hope you (or someone else) finds something, because I don't see it.

fresh_42 said:
And there's another question I have:
Do you have to visit a basket ball game, if you want to look up Dunking diagrams?

Or a Dunkin' Donuts coffee shop, with the diagrams represented by the lines at the cashiers.

fresh_42 said:
(I once visited a coffee shop with a friend. It was quite crowded so we sat on a table where some economy students already were sitting. My friend placed his book "Integral- and Differential Equations" on the table. ... After ten minutes or so, we had been alone at the table.)

When I was a grad student, a social sciences student once saw me at the pub with the book "Group theory and physics" by the mathematician S. Sternberg. She said to me, "It's nice to see that physicists work in groups, too."

Hall  page 325.jpg
 
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George Jones said:
See below. I hope you (or someone else) finds something, because I don't see it.
Me neither. I'm currently busy with the ##SO(3)## and have chosen the "wrong" basis to compare my calculations with published work. Perhaps Hall thought it would be helpful to have some beer available when actually calculating something in coordinates.
George Jones said:
When I was a grad student, a social sciences student once saw me at the pub with the book "Group theory and physics" by the mathematician S. Sternberg. She said to me, "It's nice to see that physicists work in groups, too."
She would have been even more impressed, if it had been "Solvable Groups". And you mean the book titled "Buildings" in my shelf isn't about architecture?
 
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mfb said:
You use the environment because it is faster than just writing code in a plain text editor. You don't have to use all the features VisualStudio has, but it can save a lot of time.
I think you seriously underestimate the original learning curve for someone who has not used a modern IDE. Just to get a simple console app with no windows, you need to know QUITE a lot about how to navigate the IDE and if you've never used one before, it's quite daunting.
Writing time for code is usually a negligible fraction of the total time needed to create programs (unless you make 10-line projects). Testing, debugging and so on takes the most time. And there IDEs like VisualStudio are so much better than text editors.
Unquestionably, but the post to which we are responding was about learning HOW to use it, not whether it's better, which I agree it is AFTER you've learned how to use it.
 
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Looks like 325 ml is a common amount of root beer in cans.
phinds said:
Just to get a simple console app with no windows, you need to know QUITE a lot about how to navigate the IDE and if you've never used one before, it's quite daunting.
That's not the impression I got.
 
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mfb said:
That's not the impression I got.
Well, perhaps I'm overestimating the difficulty, but I doubt it. I think someone coming to Visual Studio 2017 with no prior experience in IDEs would be VERY daunted indeed, having to wade through HUNDREDS of sometimes confusing drop-down menus to figure out how to do things, having to learn what a object browser is, what the source browser does, what ... ... I could make a really long list but you get the point.

Actually, now that I think about it, *I* was slightly intimidated by VS 2017 since it is quite a bit more complicated than the 2008 version I have been using for many years, and I've been using Microsoft IDE's since there has BEEN such a thing, decades ago. I'm really sure that a newcomer would be more than a little intimidated.
 
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If you just want to run 10 lines of C++ (or whatever) to get started, you don't need all those things. You open a new project and mainly take the default settings, add a file, write a code and then run it.
 
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mfb said:
If you just want to run 10 lines of C++ (or whatever) to get started, you don't need all those things. You open a new project and mainly take the default settings, add a file, write a code and then run it.
Well, Jim (@jim hardy) how about you download it and let us know what you think. It's free and it's easy to install, it's just (*I* think) not so easy to use until you climb the learning curve, but maybe mfb is right).
 
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jim hardy said:
hmmmm for an old guy who loved Qbasic and whose assembler days were forty years ago (not Intel)

is there any hope of learning the rudiments of that Studio language ?

I suppose so, but there are alternatives.

First of all, if you are interested it might be a good idea to find a Visual Basic tutorial on Youtube. Something that introduces Visual Basic programming using Microsoft Visual Studio Express or perhaps the new version which is Visual Studio Community.

But if you would still like to use Basic (even Qbasic) without going right into Visual Studio, you can try one of the newer free Basic compilers. One popular example is FreeBasic. There are other free and commercial versions available. I believe FreeBasic still has a Qbasic compatibility mode. You don't need to learn a fancy IDE (Integrated Development Environment) like Visual Studio in order to use it. I think this could be a fairly easy way to get back into Basic programming.

https://www.freebasic.net

Or you can take the big leap to Windows programming using either Visual Studio Express or Visual Studio Community (the latter being newer). These are IDEs which make Windows programming "easy" (once you pass the learning curve for the IDE itself, of course.) If you download the complete system it seems you get a whole bunch of languages, not just the one you want. But Visual Basic is included.

https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/visual-studio-express/

I think Basic is a perfectly good language for many applications, even though it was invented for "beginners." But it's developed a lot since then.

Here is an example of a game developed using QBasic.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2033318/black-annex-is-the-best-qbasic-game-youve-ever-seen.html

There is a good book on programming using Qbasic. It's called The Revolutionary Guide To Qbasic.

There is even a Basic version of one of the popular books on numerical algorithms: Numerical Recipes in Basic by Sprott.

Anyway I would say go for it. I plan to be programming day and night when I'm 100. Then, maybe, I will think about going on a short vacation.

:)
 
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