Top 10 Richest Americans: Bill Gates to Michael Dell

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The discussion centers around the wealth of the top ten richest Americans, exploring themes of wealth distribution, societal values regarding wealth, and the implications of extreme wealth on global issues. Participants express various opinions on the morality of wealth accumulation and the responsibilities of the wealthy, alongside some light-hearted commentary.

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  • Some participants list the top ten richest Americans and express surprise at the wealth of the Walton family.
  • There are humorous remarks questioning what the wealthy eat for dinner, reflecting a light-hearted tone.
  • One participant suggests that wealthy individuals should donate a portion of their wealth to alleviate global poverty, arguing that their accumulation of wealth is excessive and morally questionable.
  • Others defend the wealthy, attributing their success to hard work and intelligence, and question the resentment towards them.
  • Concerns are raised about the disparity in wealth distribution, with some participants arguing that the concentration of wealth among a few leads to societal issues.
  • Discussions include the idea that wealth should be used for good, with suggestions that excess wealth could be better utilized to benefit society.
  • Some participants challenge the notion that all rich individuals are deserving of condemnation, arguing that success should not be vilified.
  • There are conflicting views on the effectiveness of capitalism versus communism, with some asserting that wealth sharing has historically failed.
  • Participants debate the validity of statistics regarding income distribution and the implications of wealth on societal structures.

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Participants express a range of views, with no consensus reached on the morality of wealth accumulation or the responsibilities of the wealthy. Some defend the rich while others criticize the system that allows for such wealth disparity.

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Participants reference various statistics and opinions about wealth distribution, but these claims are not universally accepted and remain contested within the discussion.

  • #31
Originally posted by Peter Pan
Any one here, except government workers, should be kissing every rich person's filthy butt for providing them with a means of income.

enough said
That goes the other way around too, ever heard of exploitation?? Why do you think rich people get rich? They produce their stuff in poor countries against rediculously low wages. They say that they are providing those people with work, but in fact those people and resources are being exploited.
 
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  • #32
Originally posted by Peter Pan
Any one here, except government workers, should be kissing every rich person's filthy butt for providing them with a means of income.

enough said

There are two types of entrepreneurs.

One sees a problem in the marketplace and arranges for a solution. He profits from increased productivity he siphons from the overall more productive situation. Had he not acted, the market would be worse off.

The other sees an improved situation growing in the marketplace and appropriates it. He either suppresses it to keep his existing investments profitable, or siphons off profit from the new venture, making it less productive than it was. Either way, his actions make the market worse off.

The vast majority of the extremely wealthy fall into the second category. Small business owners, people who really create jobs and wealth fall into the first category.

You should read some Thorstein Veblen.

Njorl
 
  • #33
That goes the other way around too, ever heard of exploitation?? Why do you think rich people get rich? They produce their stuff in poor countries against rediculously low wages. They say that they are providing those people with work, but in fact those people and resources are being exploited.

It does not go the other way around. A person of average intellegance, excluding celeberty, will not become rich. They depend on people of intellegence and foresight to provide them with jobs. I argue that a rich person will servive without out the masses. I also believe that the opposite of that statement is false.

People in poor countries are happy to have those jobs. Without the "big and mean" companys "exploiting" the poor worker, those poor workers wouldn't have jobs. If all those workers are being exploited, let them go work somewhere else. Or even better, let them start their own business so we can be angry with them>
 
  • #34
Originally posted by Peter Pan
People in poor countries are happy to have those jobs. Without the "big and mean" companys "exploiting" the poor worker, those poor workers wouldn't have jobs. If all those workers are being exploited, let them go work somewhere else. Or even better, let them start their own business so we can be angry with them>
You went and asked them? I recall some issues that the US had with an African country and labor exploitation.. I can't remember the details.. :S

I have very clearly seen exploitation of large firms with immigrant employees, working from 6 to 6, monday to monday, without the pay of overtime. If the worker doesn't agree, he will get fired and sent out of the country. That is the power that causes exploitation.

But remember, I am not against rich people in general.
 

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