Torque, beam, angular acceleration problem

Click For Summary
A problem involving a 3.8kg bar with two 2.5kg balls glued at each end is discussed, focusing on finding the angular acceleration after one ball detaches. The torque is calculated based on the remaining ball's weight and its distance from the pivot, leading to the equation Torque = I.α. The moment of inertia is derived from both the bar and the ball, and the correct angular acceleration is determined to be 16.3 rad s^-2. The discussion highlights the importance of accurate calculations and clarifies the use of gravitational force in the torque equation. The user acknowledges a previous error in calculations and expresses intent to explore related topics further.
CricK0es
Messages
54
Reaction score
3

Homework Statement


[/B]
A thin, uniform, 3.8kg bar, 80cm long has two 2.5 kg balls glued on at either end. It is supported horizontally by a thin, horizontal, frictionless axle passing through its centers and perpendicular to the bar. Suddenly the right hand ball becomes detached and falls off, but the other ball remains glued to the bar.

Find the angular acceleration of the bar just after the ball falls off.

3. The Attempt at a Solution

Torque = I.α
The torque here is provided by the single ball = 0.4 x 2.5g

The moment of inertia for the rod and the ball, I = (1/12 M L^2) + (2.5 x 0.4^2)

Solving for α, I get the wrong answer. The correct answer is 16.3 rad s^-2

I would appreciate some guidance on this, and where I may have gone wrong. Many thanks
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Check your calculations. Typing error on the calculator ?
Can you post your steps ?
 
  • Like
Likes CricK0es
CricK0es said:
The torque here is provided by the single ball = 0.4 x 2.5g

Remember that Torque = Fperpendicular × r
What is the force exerted by the weight of the ball?
 
1.) The one ball falls off and so it is no longer balanced. Therefore, the torque is provided by the distance (from pivot) multiplied by the force
Torque = Weight of ball x distance = 0.4 x 2.5g = g

2.) The moment of inertia has to be determined for the rod AND the ball, I , = I = (1/12 M L^2) + (2.5 x 0.4^2)

3.) Torque = I.α ... Therefore α = T / I

g / [ (1/12) . (3.8) . (0.8)^2 + (2/5)... which I now have working xD = 16.3

Sorry, I must have rearranged things incorrectly the first time, or as you said put it in the calculator wrong. Oh well... I have another question, regarding centre of percussion (where I barely even know where to start), but I'll post a different thread tomorrow. But still, many thanks
 
#1 says the balls are 2.5kg not 2.5g

Edit: Oh wait I see you mean g as in 9.8m/s/s not grams
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
6K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
1K
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
1K
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
7K