Total radiation flux from a star

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The discussion revolves around the computation of total radiation flux from stars at various distances, focusing on the types and amounts of radiation produced by different fusion processes in stars. Participants explore theoretical frameworks, observational data, and the complexities involved in estimating radiation characteristics, including high-energy radiation and solar wind pressure.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose using the Stefan–Boltzmann law and reverse square distance to calculate radiation flux, but express interest in the specifics of ionizing radiation produced by different fusion processes.
  • One participant notes that ionizing radiation from nuclear fusion is thermalized to a quasi-Stefan Boltzmann spectrum, complicating predictions of its behavior.
  • There is a suggestion that the magnetic field strength of a star may depend on its rotation, with inquiries about current methods for determining stellar rotation.
  • Another participant highlights that the Sun's ionizing radiation is relatively steady, with solar flares contributing bursts of radiation, and emphasizes the complexity of estimating UV radiation based on stellar characteristics.
  • Questions arise regarding how to realistically quantify ionizing radiation based on a star's specifications, acknowledging the presence of unknown constants and the potential for observational data to inform models.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the complexities of estimating radiation from stars, with no consensus reached on specific methodologies or the extent of predictability regarding ionizing radiation and its relation to stellar characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their approaches, including the dependence on observational data, the variability of radiation based on stellar mass and age, and the challenges in quantifying factors like magnetic fields and rotation.

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Hi all !

I'm looking around the net to find good resources on how to compute total radiation flux from a given star at a given orbiting distance.

Ideally I'd like to get not just the W/m2 of the star, but also the expected high-energy radiation, thermal, solar wind pressure.. well, the works.

I understand I can basically use Stefan–Boltzmann (and then reverse square distance for attenuation) to get the W/m2, but I'm more interested in how different fusion processes will create different amounts of ionizing radiation, and specifically how different types of stars will create different types (and amounts) of radiation.
 
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Radu094 said:
Hi all !

I'm looking around the net to find good resources on how to compute total radiation flux from a given star at a given orbiting distance.

Ideally I'd like to get not just the W/m2 of the star, but also the expected high-energy radiation, thermal, solar wind pressure.. well, the works.

I understand I can basically use Stefan–Boltzmann (and then reverse square distance for attenuation) to get the W/m2, but I'm more interested in how different fusion processes will create different amounts of ionizing radiation, and specifically how different types of stars will create different types (and amounts) of radiation.

Well for one thing we never see the ionizing radiation produced by nuclear fusion in the core because it's thermalized to the Quasi-Stefan Boltzmann spectrum as we see it emitted from the surface. The ionizing radiation emitted is produced by the Sun's magnetic fields as they throw off particles and explosively release magnetic energy. Not easy to predict.
 
Hmm...enlightning! So the Stefan Boltzmann should account for most of the radiation coming out from a star?

How about estimating the magnetic field strength? I would assume that depends on the rotation of the star? Is there any current way of determining the rotation of observable stars? Or can we determine (estimate?) a rotation based on the known characteristics of a star? eg. I suppose a neutron star will rotate much faster,etc.
 
Most of the Sun's ionizing radiation (the stuff that gives us sunburn) is fairly steady with time, the bursts of ionizing radiation associated with solar flares are somewhat infrequent and only important for the big flares. Still, one cannot just use a Planck spectrum at the Sun's surface temperature, because the situation in the ultraviolet is more complicated. I'm not sure if you could do any better than just resort to observations, and there's a wide range of different amounts of UV based on detailed factors about the star (like mass and age). One thing's clear, hotter stars than the Sun have more UV, and cooler stars have less, with the exception of "flare stars" that have a lot of flaring activity (like dMe stars, I'll bet they have even more UV than the Sun despite being much cooler, though I'm not sure about that). Basically, if you want UV, just say the star is either hot or very active, and if you don't, say the star is cool and inactive.
 
Any way I can realistically quantify this given the specs for a star and a distance?
Something that wouldn't be pure guesswork?

I understand there will be a lot of fudge-factors and unknown constants but the general trend will suffice. Heck, even a general 2D diagram will do. I guess what I am asking is how is this ionizing radiation connected to stellar age, surface temp, mass,etc.

Or are there any resources available with enough observational data that I might try a silly regression algorithm ?
 

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