Transmitting link for overspeed trip.

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The discussion revolves around the mechanical mechanisms for transmitting force from a centrifugal sensing device to a stop valve in a prime mover system, particularly in the context of ensuring safety through an overspeed trip. Participants explore various approaches, including mechanical and electrical solutions.

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  • A newly graduated mechanical engineer seeks assistance in conceptualizing a mechanical mechanism to transmit force from a centrifugal sensing device to a stop valve.
  • One participant suggests using a strong metal chain or wire connected to a mechanical governor and a fuel shutoff valve, citing its use in jet engines as a reliable safety device.
  • Another participant proposes that if the stop valve is a solenoid valve, the centrifugal sensing device could open a contact in the valve's solenoid circuit, assuming it is normally closed. They also mention that for motor-controlled valves, tripping a contact would command the motor to close the valve.
  • A further suggestion involves examining the centrifugal switch in a single-phase induction motor, which disconnects the starting coil, and comparing it to a mechanism that disconnects stationary brushes from a commutator based on RPM, highlighting a mechanical solution.

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Participants present multiple competing views on the best approach to transmit the force from the centrifugal device to the stop valve, with no consensus reached on a single solution.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of purely mechanical solutions, especially over longer distances between the centrifugal device and the stop valve.

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I am a newly graduated mechanical engineer and I have difficulty conceptualizing what sort of strictly mechanical mechanism I could use to transmit the force available from a centrifugal sensing device at the main shaft of a prime mover all the way to a stop valve to shutdown the plant. I need a little assistance from experts in this forum.
 
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Think of something that is so simple it can't possibly fail.

A nice strong metal chain or wire, with one end attached to a mechanical governor and the other end pulling a fuel shiutoff valve closed, would be one option. Some jet engines have exactly that as the "ultimate" safety device, in case the electronic systems that control normal engine operation fail.
 
If the stop valve is a solenoid valve, then having the centrifugal sensing device open a contact in the valve's solenoid circuit is the simple means, assuming the valve is a normally closed valve (energize to open).

If it is a motor controlled valve, tripping a contact would still work, except the resulting action would be to command the motor to close the valve.

If the stop valve is more than a short distance away from the cf device, a purely mechanical means would probably become a questionable solution.
 
Take apart a typical single-phase fractional-horsepower induction motor (e.g., 1840 RPM in the USA) and look at the centrifugal switch to disconnect the starting coil. This an electrical contact.

Now look at the starting circuit for a single phase repulsion-start induction motor, which mechanically disconnects the stationary brushes from the rotating radial commutator above a set RPM. The mechanism is a centrifugally-actuated hollow tube that slides axially on the motor axle. See picture thumbnail of radial commutator on a pre WW I induction motor.
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[added] Manufactured by Century Electric about 1914. See also http://www.flickr.com/photos/47938537@N02/5118932181/

Bob S
 

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