Trig Identity Problem: Solve cos2(x) + sin(x) = sin2(x) for 0^0<=x<=180^0

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The discussion revolves around solving the trigonometric equation cos²(x) + sin(x) = sin²(x) for the interval 0° ≤ x ≤ 180°. Participants explore various approaches to manipulate the equation and identify potential solutions.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • Participants initially express confusion about the problem and seek assistance in solving the trigonometric equation.
  • Some participants propose using the Pythagorean identity cos²(x) + sin²(x) = 1 to substitute for cos²(x) in the equation.
  • After substitution, the equation is transformed into a quadratic form, leading to the roots sin(x) = -1/2 and sin(x) = 1.
  • There is uncertainty regarding which solutions are valid within the specified range of x, particularly concerning the negative root.
  • Participants discuss the implications of the range of sin(x) and conclude that only sin(x) = 1 is valid within the interval.
  • One participant identifies that sin(x) = 1 corresponds to x = 90°, but expresses uncertainty about the relevance of this conclusion to the original question.
  • Another participant confirms that x = 90° is indeed the only solution within the given constraints.
  • An alternative approach is presented, leading to the same conclusion that x = 90° is the solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that x = 90° is the solution to the equation within the specified range. However, there is some initial uncertainty regarding the validity of the roots derived from the quadratic equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of confidence in their mathematical reasoning, and there are discussions about the implications of negative values of sin(x) within the specified range.

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Hello,
My teacher gave me some trig identity homework and it has completely stumped me :confused:.
Would be really grateful for some help, thanks!

The question is;
Solve the equation cos2(x) + sin(x) = sin2(x) for 0o<=x<=180o

I wasn't sure how to enter the degree symbol so i added ^0.
 
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Hello, and welcome to MHB! (Wave)

JPorkins said:
Hello,
My teacher gave me some trig identity homework and it has completely stumped me :confused:.
Would be really grateful for some help, thanks!

The question is;
Solve the equation cos2(x) + sin(x) = sin2(x) for 0o<=x<=180o

I wasn't sure how to enter the degree symbol so i added ^0.

We are given to solve:

$$\cos^2(x)+\sin(x)=\sin^2(x)$$ where $$0^{\circ}\le x\le180^{\circ}$$

Okay, the first thing I notice is that two of the terms are in terms of $\sin(x)$, and the other is part of a trig. identity (Pythagorean) involving $\sin(x)$:

$$\cos^2(x)+\sin^2(x)=1\implies\cos^2(x)=1-\sin^2(x)$$

So, what do you get when you substitute for $\cos^2(x)$ into the given equation using the identity above?
 
MarkFL said:
Hello, and welcome to MHB! (Wave)
We are given to solve:

$$\cos^2(x)+\sin(x)=\sin^2(x)$$ where $$0^{\circ}\le x\le180^{\circ}$$

Okay, the first thing I notice is that two of the terms are in terms of $\sin(x)$, and the other is part of a trig. identity (Pythagorean) involving $\sin(x)$:

$$\cos^2(x)+\sin^2(x)=1\implies\cos^2(x)=1-\sin^2(x)$$

So, what do you get when you substitute for $\cos^2(x)$ into the given equation using the identity above?

Using the equation cos2 + sin2 = 1,
i think the cos2(x) can be substituted for ( 1-sin2(x) )
which changes the equation to 0=-2sin2(x) + sin(x) +1
from there i factorised using the quadratic formulea (A=(-2), B=1, C=1)
this left me with sin(x) = -1/2 or 1

I'm not confident on my maths here though

After this i know the roots to the quadtraic need to be entered into the equation to find the angles but I'm not sure on this part either.
Many thanks !
 
JPorkins said:
Using the equation cos2 + sin2 = 1,
i think the cos2(x) can be substituted for ( 1-sin2(x) )
which changes the equation to 0=-2sin2(x) + sin(x) +1
from there i factorised using the quadratic formulea (A=(-2), B=1, C=1)
this left me with sin(x) = -1/2 or 1

I'm not confident on my maths here though

After this i know the roots to the quadtraic need to be entered into the equation to find the angles but I'm not sure on this part either.
Many thanks !

You've done splendidly so far! (Yes)

So, from the quadratic in $\sin(x)$ that resulted, we obtain:

$$\sin(x)=-\frac{1}{2}$$

$$\sin(x)=1$$

Now, for the given restriction on $x$, do we need to discard any of these solutions?
 
MarkFL said:
You've done splendidly so far! (Yes)

So, from the quadratic in $\sin(x)$ that resulted, we obtain:

$$\sin(x)=-\frac{1}{2}$$

$$\sin(x)=1$$

Now, for the given restriction on $x$, do we need to discard any of these solutions?

The $$\sin(x)=-\frac{1}{2}$$ is a negative so will be out of the 0<=x<=180 range ?
The $$\sin(x)=1$$ will stay however ?

Then the sin(x) =1 can be entered into the cos2(x) + sin(x) = sin2(x) equation afterwards ?

Thanks
 
JPorkins said:
The $$\sin(x)=-\frac{1}{2}$$ is a negative so will be out of the 0<=x<=180 range ?
The $$\sin(x)=1$$ will stay however ?

Yes, as $x$ varies from $0^{\circ}$ to $180^{\circ}$, $\sin(x)$ varies from zero, all the way up to one, and then back down to zero, and so we may only consider:

$$0\le\sin(x)\le1$$

And the only root of our quadratic in that range is:

$$\sin(x)=1$$

JPorkins said:
Then the sin(x) =1 can be entered into the cos2(x) + sin(x) = sin2(x) equation afterwards ?

Thanks

No, what we want to do is consider for what value of $x$ do we have:

$$\sin(x)=1$$ ?

What angle $x$ gives us:

$$\sin(x)=1$$ ?
 
MarkFL said:
No, what we want to do is consider for what value of $x$ do we have:

$$\sin(x)=1$$ ?

What angle $x$ gives us:

$$\sin(x)=1$$ ?

At 90 degrees sin(x) = 1 ? Whether this is correct relevant to the question I'm not sure though !
 
JPorkins said:
At 90 degrees sin(x) = 1 ? Whether this is correct relevant to the question I'm not sure though !

Yes, from:

$$\sin(x)=1$$

and:

$$0^{\circ}\le x\le180^{\circ}$$

We then conclude:

$$x=90^{\circ}$$

is the only solution to the given equation, subject to the constraint on the domain. :D
 
MarkFL said:
Yes, from:

$$\sin(x)=1$$

and:

$$0^{\circ}\le x\le180^{\circ}$$

We then conclude:

$$x=90^{\circ}$$

is the only solution to the given equation, subject to the constraint on the domain. :D

Wow, you made it very simple ! I wish my teacher was as good as you aha.
Thank you very much !
 
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Alternatively,

$$\cos^2x+\sin x=\sin^2x$$

$$\cos^2x-\sin^2x=-\sin x$$

$$\cos2x=-\sin x$$

$$\sin(90-2x)=-\sin x$$

$$\sin(2x-90)=\sin x$$

$$2x-90=x$$

$$x=90^\circ$$
 

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