Two body final velocities (check this please)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the final velocities of two masses, m1 and m2, released from rest and drawn together by gravity. The total kinetic energy (KE) at distance d is derived from the gravitational potential energy difference at distances D and d, expressed as KE(t) = (G * m1 * m2 / d) - (G * m1 * m2 / D). The final velocities are calculated using the formulas v(m1) = sqrt(KE(m1) / (½ * m1)) and v(m2) = sqrt(KE(m2) / (½ * m2)). The conservation of linear momentum and mechanical energy principles are emphasized, along with the concept of lost mass.

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Homework Statement


Two masses m1 & m2 in free space are released from rest at a distance D and draw together under gravity to a distance d, calculate the final velocity of each mass.


Homework Equations


Final total KE of both bodies at d from :
KE (t) = ( ( G * m1 * m2 ) / d ) - ( ( G * m1 * m2 ) / D )
(Joules)



The Attempt at a Solution


Split the KE (t) by mass ratio, so :
KE (m1) = ( m2 / ( m1 + m2 ) ) * KE (t)
KE (m2) = ( m1 / ( m1 + m2 ) ) * KE (t)

The final velocities from :
v (m1) = sqrt ( ( KE ( m1 ) ) / ( ½ * m1 ) )
v (m2) = sqrt ( ( KE ( m2 ) ) / ( ½ * m2 ) )

The final momentums are equal, suggesting a good process, comments please.

 
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Homework Statement


Two masses m1 & m2 in free space are released from rest at a distance D and draw together under gravity to a distance d, calculate the final velocity of each mass.


Homework Equations


Final total KE of both bodies at d from :
KE (t) = ( ( G * m1 * m2 ) / d ) - ( ( G * m1 * m2 ) / D )
(Joules)



The Attempt at a Solution


Split the KE (t) by mass ratio, so :
KE (m1) = ( m2 / ( m1 + m2 ) ) * KE (t)
KE (m2) = ( m1 / ( m1 + m2 ) ) * KE (t)

The final velocities from :
v (m1) = sqrt ( ( KE ( m1 ) ) / ( ½ * m1 ) )
v (m2) = sqrt ( ( KE ( m2 ) ) / ( ½ * m2 ) )

The final momentums are equal, suggesting a good process, comments please.

Ratio of kinetic energies of two particles is NOT the same as ratio of their masses.

Use following laws:

1. Conservation of linear momentum
2. Conservation of mechanical energy.

CONCEPT of LOST MASS might also be useful.
 

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