Two trig questions (Triangles and Trapezoid)

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The discussion revolves around two geometry problems: one involving an isosceles trapezoid with given dimensions and the other concerning a triangle formed by two lighthouses and a ship. Participants are exploring how to determine the lengths of the trapezoid's diagonals and the distance from the ship to the nearer lighthouse.

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  • Participants suggest drawing diagrams to visualize the problems, with emphasis on labeling vertices and using coordinate systems. There are discussions about applying the Pythagorean theorem and the Law of Sines for calculations. Some participants express uncertainty about specific dimensions and calculations.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problems. There is a mix of confidence in solving the second question while some uncertainty remains regarding the trapezoid's diagonals. Multiple interpretations of the trapezoid's dimensions are being explored.

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An isosceles trapezoid has a height of 4 cm and bases 3 cm and 7 cm long. How long are its diagonals?


From lighthouses P and Q, 16km apart, a disabled ship S is sighted. If angle SPQ = 44 and angle SQP = 66, find the distance from S to the nearer lighthouse?



I know how to do all of the calculations but I am just not sure where to start on these =/ ?
 
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Well, you need to show some work or at least show your thoughts on how to proceed. What have you done so far?

Hint/question: What is nice about the trapezoid being isosceles?
 
For #1, draw a picture of the trapezoid on a coordinate axis system. I would center the long base on the x axis. Find the coordinates of the four vertices and calculate the distance from the opposite vertices. They should be equal.

For #2, draw a picture of the triangle formed by the two lighthouses and the ship, and label the vertices as P, Q, and S (the ship). Label the side you know and the angles you know. From the given information, use what you know about trig to find the missing side. You'll probably need to use the Law of Sines.
 
Alright well I am good with the second question on the ship i am pretty sure i got it...

For the trapezoid here's what I drew

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I'm not sure where to go from here
 
Look a bit closer at what I said earlier:
For #1, draw a picture of the trapezoid on a coordinate axis system. I would center the long base on the x axis. Find the coordinates of the four vertices and calculate the distance from the opposite vertices. They should be equal.
 
Alright I graphed it out, with (0,0) and (0,7) being the two bottom vertices, and (2,4) and (5,4) for the others... would the distance be 4? Between one of the long vertices and one of the short?
 
Just use the Pythagorean theorem to calculate the diagonal (which would be the hypotenuse). You already know the height, and you can easily find out the other cathetus (you more or less already have it since you wrote out coordinates).
 
ahh ok, √5² + 4² = √41 ≈ 6.403 that seem right?
 
rought said:
ahh ok, √5² + 4² = √41 ≈ 6.403 that seem right?
Correct.
 
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Why 5? The right triangle with the lower right corner as one vertex and the diagonal as hypotenuse has height 4 cm, the height of the parallelogram, and base 7- 3= 4 cm.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Why 5? The right triangle with the lower right corner as one vertex and the diagonal as hypotenuse has height 4 cm, the height of the parallelogram, and base 7- 3= 4 cm.
No, the base is 7-2=5 cm.
 

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