U.S.A. must sell Alaska to Korea and Japan

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The discussion revolves around the idea of the United States selling part of Alaska to Korea and Japan as a solution to the international financial crisis. Participants explore the implications of debt, the role of Asian central banks, and the interconnectedness of global economies, touching on historical comparisons and the potential consequences of economic actions.

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  • Some participants argue that the U.S. must sell part of Alaska to alleviate its national deficit, citing that Alaska was not originally U.S. land.
  • There are claims that the U.S. dollar is not backed by gold and that its value is maintained through international use, drawing parallels to the Mongol Empire's monetary issues.
  • Others suggest that the world economy cannot survive a failure of the U.S. economy, emphasizing the importance of globalization and interdependence among nations.
  • Some participants express concerns about countries potentially insulating their economies from global influences, which could disrupt globalization.
  • A few participants reflect on the complexities of international finance, including the movement of capital and the role of secretive banking practices.

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Participants express both agreement and disagreement on various points, particularly regarding the necessity of collaboration among nations to address financial crises. There is no clear consensus on the proposed solution of selling Alaska or the implications of U.S. economic policies.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference historical economic systems and the current state of global finance, but there are unresolved assumptions about the feasibility and consequences of the proposed actions. The discussion includes speculative elements regarding future economic trends and the behavior of nations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying international finance, economic policy, and globalization, as well as individuals curious about the historical context of monetary systems.

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International financial crisis due to a simple fact
the debtor can not pay their debt.
so someone must lose money.
only big money holder can lose such a big money.
who is a bing money holder?
Asian central bank.
but Asian centural bank has no reason to lose their money.
the Debtor must give something to money holder.
U.S.A. must sell some part of Alaska to Korea and Japan.
Alaska was not originaly land of U.S.A.
by that money, U.S.A. must cancel their national deficit.
 
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Jang Jin Hong said:
International financial crisis due to a simple fact
the debtor can not pay their debt.
so someone must lose money.
only big money holder can lose such a big money.
who is a bing money holder?
Asian central bank.
but Asian centural bank has no reason to lose their money.
the Debtor must give something to money holder.
U.S.A. must sell some part of Alaska to Korea and Japan.
Alaska was not originaly land of U.S.A.
by that money, U.S.A. must cancel their national deficit.

Ok. It's a trillion dollars an acre.
They can have that little island next to Russia, just down the street from Sarah Palin's house.
 
OmCheeto said:
Ok. It's a trillion dollars an acre.
They can have that little island next to Russia, just down the street from Sarah Palin's house.

If central bank of U.S.A. go to bank run.
result will not be that of zimbabwe.

Money of U.S.A. do not exchangable with gold or other thing, and used as international exchange.for a long history. there is only one nation which is similar with U.S.A.
That is Mongol empire. Money of Mongol empire did not exchangabe with gold or silver, Mongol empire abuse money making ability and that introduce civil war.

If U.S.A. challenge to cancel their debt by inflation.
The result will be similar with collapse of Mongol empire.
 
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The world economy cannot survive if the US economy fails. In fact what we have seen is that foreign investors have moved towards US dollars as a safe haven - the strength of the US dollar has been improving in recent weeks.

Like it or not, we are all in this together. Welcome to globalization.

However, I can't help but suspect that soon we will see countries moving to insulate their economies from the global economy, which could have serious implications for globalization.
 
Jang Jin Hong said:
If central bank of U.S.A. go to bank run.
result will not be that of zimbabwe.

Money of U.S.A. do not exchangable with gold or other thing, and used as international exchange.for a long history. there is only one nation which is similar with U.S.A.
That is Mongol empire. Money of Mongol empire did not exchangabe with gold or silver, Mongol empire abuse money making ability and that introduce civil war.

If U.S.A. challenge to cancel their debt by inflation.
The result will be similar with collapse of Mongol empire.

FYI. Try googling "gold standard". I've just learned in the last 60 seconds that:

http://economics.about.com/cs/money/a/gold_standard.htm
The gold standard has not been used in any major economy since August 15, 1971.

And like Ivan said, we are now a global economy.

I think we should solve this problem together, peaceably.

That brings up an interesting question though, have any countries gone to war over a bad debt? I know that countries have waged war because they were impoverished and wanted someone elses "stuff", but bad debt?
 
I have to agree with Ivan Seeking and OmCheeto. There's no more "you" or "us" when it comes to the economies of the world. We're all dependent on each other in a very vast and complex system of trading.
 
phyzmatix said:
I have to agree with Ivan Seeking and OmCheeto. There's no more "you" or "us" when it comes to the economies of the world. We're all dependent on each other in a very vast and complex system of trading.

Yes, and when brokers start heading offshore with hoards of cash because they are under investigation for fraud, we'll need the help of all the nations to track them down.

There's another question, what are the big secret money banking countries nowadays?
I know the old "Swiss bank account" cliche'.
Are there more now?
I'm dreadfully behind on my financial conspiracy reading. :rolleyes:
 
Jang Jin Hong said:
International financial crisis due to a simple fact
the debtor can not pay their debt.
so someone must lose money.
only big money holder can lose such a big money.
who is a bing money holder?
Asian central bank.
but Asian centural bank has no reason to lose their money.
the Debtor must give something to money holder.
U.S.A. must sell some part of Alaska to Korea and Japan.
Alaska was not originaly land of U.S.A.
by that money, U.S.A. must cancel their national deficit.

Make certain that Palin does not find about this post ... she is going to excommunicate you.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Like it or not, we are all in this together. Welcome to globalization.

:smile:

However, I can't help but suspect that soon we will see countries moving to insulate their economies from the global economy, which could have serious implications for globalization.

I think this is just distributing the power among more nations - all the power/economy strength wouldn't be concentrated in US which is good. Secondly, there is no solution without collaborations .. so I see this much more like brining different nations together to solve the crisis and hence promoting further co-operation among them.
 

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