Understanding Fourier Transform: A Beginner's Guide

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The discussion centers around understanding the Fourier transform, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics and its application to wave functions. Participants seek clarification on specific equations and constants involved in the Fourier transform process, as well as the implications of these definitions in one-dimensional systems.

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  • One participant requests clarification on the steps following a specific equation related to the Fourier transform found in a linked resource.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the origin of the constants 1/sqrt(2pi) and h-bar in the equations, suggesting a connection to the integral of e^(-x^2).
  • A third participant explains that the 1/sqrt(2pi) normalization comes from a convention that makes the Fourier transform its own inverse, while h-bar is related to momentum rather than wave-vector.
  • Further elaboration includes a definition of the Fourier transform and a theorem regarding the conditions under which it holds, with a note on the aesthetic choice of constants in the equations.
  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the wave function and its relation to probability density, emphasizing the need to consider volume when discussing measurements in three dimensions.
  • It is noted that the wave function for momentum is the Fourier transform of the position wave function.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the Fourier transform and its constants, indicating that multiple viewpoints and levels of clarity exist. No consensus is reached on the specific origins of the constants or the best approach to understanding the equations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for certain conditions for the Fourier transform to apply, though these conditions are not specified. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the definitions and interpretations of the constants involved.

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In the following link:

http://electron6.phys.utk.edu/QM1/modules/m1/free_particle.htm

please look at the part where it says "We may write the Fourier transform of...". I am unable to understand how the next following steps work. Could someone explain this please? :)
 
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Particularly, I don't understand why the following two equations (on the same line) happen to work out. Where does the h-bar as the constant come from in the 1/sqrt(2*pi*hbar)? In addition, in the earlier steps, where it says: "let us first concentrate on one-dimensional systems", where does the constant 1/sqrt(2pi) come from? I'm guessing it has something to do with the integral e^(-x^2)...
 
The [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi}}[/tex] per dimension comes from one way to define the Fourier transform. With this normalization convention, the Fourier transform is effectively its own inverse. The [tex]\hbar[/tex] comes from the fact that [tex]p[/tex] is momentum, and not a wave-vector, which is what the Fourier transform is normally expressed in.

As for your first question, the first equation may be taken as an indirect definition of [tex]\psi(p)[/tex]. One then simply inverts the Fourier transform to solve for [tex]\psi(p)[/tex]. It's important that you understand the Fourier transform process, though. It follows from [tex]\int\!dx\, e^{i k x} = (2\pi) \delta(k)[/tex], but I suggest you get comfortable with Fourier transforms first.
 
You can define the Fourier transform g of a function f by

[tex]g(p)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi}}\int_{-\infty}^\infty f(x)e^{-ipx}dx[/tex]

(The Fourier transform is the map [itex]f\mapsto g[/itex]). Now there's a theorem that says that if f is "nice enough" (I don't remember the exact conditions), then

[tex]f(x)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi}}\int_{-\infty}^\infty g(p)e^{ipx}dp[/tex].

We could have chosen to omit the [itex]1/\sqrt{2\pi}[/itex] in the first equation, but then a factor of [itex]1/2\pi[/itex] would have shown up in the second equation. A lot of people think the equations look prettier when the constant in front of the integrals are the same. (If this had been a Wikipedia article, someone would insert "citation needed" here :smile:). That's really the only reason why the constant was chosen that way in the first equation.

What they're doing on that web page is to use the second equation on the the wave function at a fixed time. They are also using the interpretation of [itex]|\psi(x)|^2[/itex] as a probability density. You have to multiply it by a length (a volume when we're considering 3 spatial dimensions) to get the probability that a measurement will localize the particle in a region of that size near x.

A similar thing holds for momentum. The wave function for momentum is just the Fourier transform of the regular wave function.
 
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