Understanding Observing Frequency and Its Significance in Radio Astronomy

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The discussion revolves around the concept of observing frequency in radio astronomy, particularly in relation to radio galaxies and their emission mechanisms. Participants explore the implications of observed frequencies, redshift, and the terminology used in the field.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the designation of a telescope as a "radio telescope" implies it receives frequencies in the radio band, and questions whether observing frequency only provides information about distance.
  • Another participant challenges the assumption that receiving radio frequencies necessarily indicates redshifted visible light, indicating that this is not generally true.
  • A question is raised about whether all radio galaxies are approximately the same distance from Earth and whether the distinction between radio and x-ray galaxies is based on redshift or emission mechanisms.
  • One participant requests clarification on the terms "radio galaxy" and "x-ray galaxy," expressing unfamiliarity with the terminology.
  • Another participant confirms that "radio galaxy" is a standard term in astronomy and provides historical context and examples, including Cygnus A, while discussing its emissions across the electromagnetic spectrum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of observing frequencies and the terminology used in radio astronomy. There is no consensus on the relationship between observed frequencies, redshift, and the physical activities of galaxies.

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Some statements rely on specific definitions of terms like "radio galaxy" and "x-ray galaxy," which may not be universally accepted. The discussion includes unresolved questions about the mechanisms of emission and the significance of distance in relation to observed frequencies.

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I believe that when we say that this is radio telescope, it means that reciving frequency of it is in radio band. And also it means an observed object by that is in a particular redshift that its emission has a particular frequency that when receives us, is in radio band. Am I right?
For ex. We say cynus A is a radio galaxy. But it doesn't mean that it emits in radio freq. So it doesn't give us any info about physical activities happening in the galaxy, it just tells us about its distance from us.
Sorry for my confusing question! I'm just wondering observing fre just tells us about distance?
 
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It is true that "it doesn't mean that its emission has a particular frequency that when receives us, is in radio band." However, the rest of what you say, in particular "it just tells us about its distance from us" seems to be assuming that what we receive as "radio band" is redshifted visible light. That is not in general true.
 
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Are all the radio galaxies in the (approximarely) same distance from us? And is the reciveing frequency from all of them in radio band?
I am wondering whether the difference between a radio and x-ray galaxy is their redshift or their emission mechanism ?
 
Can you cite where you have seen these terms "radio galaxy" and "x-ray galaxy" and such? I am not familiar with them as standard terminology, but it could be something I haven't heard until now. Also, I think this thread belongs better in the Astronomy and Astrophysics section.
 
Oh, you are right! I'm sorry, I was supposed to post them in astronomy section.
Thanks though!
 
Matterwave said:
Can you cite where you have seen these terms "radio galaxy"

That is an extremely standard and common term in astronomy
in another thread earlier today I posted an example ... The Centaurus A radio galaxy

Cen_A_multiwavelength_7.jpg
as can be seen, it pumps out masses of EM right across the spectrum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygnus_A

Cygnus A (3C 405) is a radio galaxy, and one of the strongest radio sources in the sky. It was discovered by Grote Reber in 1939. In 1951, Cygnus A, along with Cassiopeia A, and Puppis A were the first "radio stars" identified with an optical source. Of these, Cygnus A became the first radio galaxy; the other two being nebulae inside the Milky Way.[2] In 1953 Roger Jennison and M K Das Gupta showed it to be a double source.[3] Like all radio galaxies, it contains an active galactic nucleus.

Images of the galaxy in the radio portion of the electromagnetic spectrum show two jets protruding in opposite directions from the galaxy's center. These jets extend many times the width of the portion of the host galaxy which emits radiation at visible wavelengths.[4] At the ends of the jets are two lobes with "hot spots" of more intense radiation at their edges. These hot spots are formed when material from the jets collides with the surrounding intergalactic medium.[5]
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