Understanding Relative Angular Velocity and Acceleration in Rotating Bodies

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The discussion revolves around the concept of relative angular velocity and acceleration in the context of two solid bodies rotating about mutually perpendicular intersecting axes with constant angular velocities. Participants are exploring how to express the angular velocity and angular acceleration of one body relative to the other.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants are attempting to apply equations for relative angular velocity and questioning the validity of the proposed equation. There is uncertainty about how to treat angular velocities and accelerations as vectors. Some participants are exploring the analogy between relative angular and linear velocities.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing uncertainty about the equations and concepts involved. Some guidance has been offered to start from basic principles, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or understanding yet.

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Participants have noted a lack of understanding regarding the concept of relative angular acceleration despite the bodies rotating with constant angular velocities. There are indications that some sections of the initial problem statement were missing, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Two solid bodies rotate about mutually perpendicular intersecting axes with constant angular velocities [tex]\omega_1[/tex] and [tex]\omega_2[/tex]. Find the angular velocity and angular accelartion of one body relative to the other.
 
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da_vinci said:

Homework Statement


Two solid bodies rotate about mutually perpendicular intersecting axes with constant angular velocities [tex]\omega_1[/tex] and [tex]\omega_2[/tex]. Find the angular velocity and angular accelartion of one body relative to the other.
Welcome to PF da_vinci,

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sorry!
but i didnt know the concept for the relative angular accelaration..
for relative angular velocities, i think we should use this equation
[tex]\omega_{12} = \omega_1 - \omega_2[/tex]
am i right??
can somebody help me with this prob? please?
 
da_vinci said:
sorry!
but i didnt know the concept for the relative angular accelaration..
for relative angular velocities, i think we should use this equation
[tex]\omega_{12} = \omega_1 - \omega_2[/tex]
am i right??
can somebody help me with this prob? please?
Are you sure about that equation, in particular the sign of the equation?
 
i am not too sure of that eqn!
i don't know how to deal with angular velocity and andular accelarations as vectors...please can smone answer this?
 
da_vinci said:
i am not too sure of that eqn!
i don't know how to deal with angular velocity and andular accelarations as vectors...please can smone answer this?
Okay, we'll start from the beginning. We need to determine the angular velocity of one body with respect to the other. Let us arbitrarily chose to determine the angular velocity of the second object with respect to the first.

From our point of view (POV), the first body is rotating about it's axis of rotation wil an angular velocity of [itex]\omega_1[/itex]. However, we need to determine the angular velocity of the axis about the first body from the first body's POV.

Can you do that?
 
The relative angular velocity can be found using analogy to linear ones, am I correct?

Another thing, since the 2 bodies rotate with constant angular velocity, why is there relative angular acceleration?
 

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