Understanding the General Solution of a Differential Equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of the general solution of linear homogeneous differential equations, particularly second-order equations. Participants explore the implications of having multiple solutions and the significance of linear combinations of these solutions in relation to initial conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why, if two solutions y_1(t) and y_2(t) exist, there is a need to create another solution through linear combinations, and why this combined solution is termed the "general solution."
  • Another participant emphasizes that a solution must satisfy both the differential equation and the initial conditions, noting that individual solutions may not meet these conditions.
  • An example is provided where the functions y_1(x) = cos x and y_2(x) = sin x are solutions to the equation y'' = -y, but do not satisfy specific initial conditions, while their linear combination does.
  • A later reply introduces the theorem that the set of all solutions to a linear homogeneous differential equation of order n forms an n-dimensional vector space, indicating the existence of a basis of solutions.
  • This reply also asserts that finding two independent solutions does not conclude the search for solutions, as there are infinitely many solutions represented by linear combinations of the basis functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of the general solution, with some emphasizing the importance of initial conditions and others focusing on the theoretical framework of solution spaces. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conceptual understanding of general solutions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the relationship between specific solutions and general solutions, as well as the dependence on initial conditions and the mathematical structure of solution spaces.

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Hello - I asked a similar question before, but it was not resolved for me, and the person who answered was rude, so I did not continue the conversation.

I read this here: http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/SecondOrderConcepts.aspx

"If y_1(t) and y_2(t)are two solutions to a linear, homogeneous differential equation then so is
y(t) = c_1 y_1(t) + c_2 y_2(t), and it states that this is the general solution.

I don't understand this: if y_1(t) and y_2(t) are solutions, then we should be done, right? We have our solutions. Why are we interested in making another solution? And, why is the sum of the solutions with multipliers the "general solution", and the other two solutions, y_1(t) and y_2(t), not general?

Thank you
 
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oneamp said:
Hello - I asked a similar question before, but it was not resolved for me, and the person who answered was rude, so I did not continue the conversation.

I read this here: http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/SecondOrderConcepts.aspx

"If y_1(t) and y_2(t)are two solutions to a linear, homogeneous differential equation then so is
y(t) = c_1 y_1(t) + c_2 y_2(t), and it states that this is the general solution.

I don't understand this: if y_1(t) and y_2(t) are solutions, then we should be done, right? We have our solutions. Why are we interested in making another solution? And, why is the sum of the solutions with multipliers the "general solution", and the other two solutions, y_1(t) and y_2(t), not general?

Thank you

It's not enough for a solution to satisfy the ODE; it must also satisfy the initial conditions, and for a second-order ODE there are two such conditions.

Example:

The functions y_1(x) = \cos x and y_2(x) = \sin x are solutions of
<br /> y&#039;&#039; = -y.<br />

Neither y_1 nor y_2 satisfy the intitial conditions y(0) = y&#039;(0) = 1, but the linear combination y(x) = \cos x + \sin x = y_1(x) + y_2(x) does, and in general a\cos x + b\sin x is the solution of y&#039;&#039; = -y which satisfies the initial conditions y(0) = a and y&#039;(0) = b.
 
Thank you
 
The basic theorem here is that "the set of all solutions to a linear homogeneous differential equation of order n form an n dimensional vector space".

In particular, that means there exist a "basis" for the vector space (solution set) consisting of n functions such that every solution can be written as a linear combination of those solutions.

In the case of a "linear homogeneous second order equation", there must exist two independent solutions, y_1(x) and y_2(x) such that any solution, y(x), can be written y(x)= Ay_1(x)+ By_2(x) for appropriate constants A and B.

We are not "done" when we find y_1 and y_2 because there exist an infinite number of solutions.
 

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