Understanding the Moon's Position: Relativity and Uncertainty

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This discussion focuses on the relationship between the Moon's position as observed from Earth and the principles of special and general relativity, alongside the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. It establishes that the Moon's apparent position is primarily influenced by light travel time rather than quantum effects or relativistic phenomena, given its large mass and slow movement relative to Earth. The consensus is that the Moon is effectively where it appears to be, with any discrepancies attributed to observational delays rather than fundamental physical principles.

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how special and the general relativity explains the position of moon from the Earth reference system taking also into account the Heisenberg uncertaintity problem.
when we look at the moon from the Earth what is the indeed position of it. what is the error.
 
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One might ask, what more can be proved to exist than the quantum object of one's immediate measurement?

If h were set to zero, though, the moon would be observed to obey ultimately geometrodynamics, of all our remaining theories. Measurement would then be a process of continuous action and reaction rather than a statistical correlation between discrete quanta.
 
The moon is moving much too slowly, relative to the earth, for any relativistic effects to be noticable. The moon is much to large for quantum effects to be noticable. The moon is exactly where it appears to be!
 
what, just over the treetops? :wink:
 
Hmmm, when I looked it was just below the treetops! Is this a quantum or relativistic effect?
 
I can't see the moon from the trees! (As a matter of fact, it's all dark.)
 
It is in a slightly diffrent position because the light takes time to reach us... but like they said the quantum effects would probably be to small to make the moon appear were it is not...
 
Your understanding of physics is quite off. First off, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle has absouloutly nothing to do with the moon. Secondly, GR and SR and about 100 years after Newton figured the rotation of the moon.
 

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