Understanding the Role of Space Energy Propagator in Quantum Field Theory

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the space energy propagator in Quantum Field Theory (QFT), specifically focusing on its representation and role in relation to the spacetime propagator. Participants explore theoretical aspects, mathematical formulations, and potential applications of these propagators.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the space energy propagator $$G^+(x, y, E)$$ and its significance, noting it is introduced without sufficient explanation in the text.
  • Another participant explains that $$G^+(x, y, E)$$ represents the spacetime propagator in terms of energy eigenfunctions and discusses its relationship with the time-dependent propagator $$G^+(x, t, x', t')$$.
  • There is a proposal that $$G^+$$ is the retarded propagator, with a discussion on how to handle poles at $$E=E_n$$ in the context of the retarded Green's function.
  • A later reply summarizes that $$\tilde G(x, y, E)$$ is the Fourier transform of $$G(x, y, t)$$ and questions its use as a stepping stone to obtain $$G(p, E)$$.
  • Another participant mentions the utility of $$\tilde G(x, y, E)$$ in solving initial-value problems for the Schrödinger equation by expanding solutions in energy eigenfunctions.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding and propose different interpretations of the space energy propagator and its applications. No consensus is reached regarding the definitive role or implications of the space energy propagator.

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Participants reference specific mathematical formulations and theorems, indicating that the discussion is dependent on the definitions and assumptions related to energy eigenfunctions and the retarded Green's function. Some mathematical steps remain unresolved.

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What is the space energy propagator?
This is section 16.3 of QFT for the Gifted Amateur. I understand the concept of the spacetime propagator ##G^+(x, t, x', t')##, but the following propagator is introduced without any explanation I can see:
$$G^+(x, y, E) = \sum_n \frac{i\phi_n(x)\phi_n^*(y)}{E - E_n}$$
It would be good to have an explanation of what this is and what role it plays. Thanks.
 
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This is the representation of the "spacetime propagtor" in terms of energy eigenfunctions. It's quite easy to prove. I'd like to write ##\tilde{G}^+(x,y,E)##, because it's a different function than ##G^+(x,t,x',t')##. You have of course
$$G^+(x,t,x',t')=G^+(x,x',t-t'),$$
because obviously the textbook author considers a Hamiltonian that's not explicitly time dependent and thus the system is time-translation invariant. Then you have
$$G^+(x,t,x',t')=\int_{\mathbb{R}} \frac{\mathrm{d} E}{2 \pi} G^+(x,x',E) \exp[-\mathrm{i} E(t-t')]. \qquad (**)$$
Further I also guess that ##G^+## is the retarded propagator. It's necessary to know that, because the definition of ##\tilde{G}^+## is incomplete without telling, how to deal with the poles at ##E=E_n##. For the retarded propgator you get
$$\tilde{G}^{+}(x,y,E)=\sum_n \frac{\mathrm{i} \phi_n(x) \phi_n^*(y)}{E-E_n+\mathrm{i} 0^+}. \qquad (*)$$
Then you have
$$(\mathrm{i} \partial_t -\hat{H}) G^+(x,t,x',t') = \int_{\mathrm{R}} \frac{\mathrm{d} E}{2 \pi} \exp[-\mathrm{i} E (t-t')] [E-\hat{H}] \sum_n \frac{\mathrm{i} \phi_n(x) \phi_n(x')}{E-E_n + \mathrm{i} 0^+} =\int_{\mathrm{R}} \frac{\mathrm{d} E}{2 \pi} \exp[-\mathrm{i} E (t-t')] \sum_n \mathrm{i} \psi_n(x) \psi_n^*(x') = \mathrm{i} \delta(t-t') \delta^{(3)}(\vec{x}-\vec{x}').$$
In the last step I've used the completeness of the energy eigenbasis.

With the choice of the regularization of the poles given (*), ##G^+## is choosen to be the retarded Green's function, i.e.,
$$G^+(x,t,x',t') \propto \Theta(t-t'),$$
as one can see, when taking the Fourier integral in (**) by closing the integration path in the complex energy plane with a large circle. For ##t-t'>0## you have to close the circle in the lower plane, including all the poles. So there you get some non-zero value, but for ##t-t'<0## you have to close the contour in the upper plane, and this gives 0, because there are no poles in the upper plane (thanks to the ##+\mathrm{i} 0^+## in the denominator). For ##t-t'<0## you can solve the integral very easily using the Theorem of Residues, leading finally to
$$G^+(x,t,x',t')=\Theta(t-t') \sum_{n} \phi_n(x) \phi_n^*(x') \exp[-\mathrm{i} E_n(t-t')].$$
Using ##\partial_t \Theta(t-t')=\delta(t-t')## it's easy to show again that this is indeed the retarded Green's function using the completeness of the energy eigenbasis.
 
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Thanks. So, to summarise: ##\tilde G(x, y, E)## is the Fourier transform of ##G(x, y, t)##.

Where would you use ##\tilde G(x, y, E)##? Is it an intermediate stepping stone to get to ##G(p, E)##?
 
It's always useful, if you have solved the energy eigenvalueproblem (i.e., the time-dependent Schrödinger equation). Then you can use it to describe arbitrary initial-value problems for the Schrödinger equation by expanding the solution in energy eigenfunctions.
 

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