Understanding the Rotation of Stars: Origins and Processes

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The discussion centers on the rotation of stars, including the sun, exploring questions about whether all stars rotate, the origins of this rotation, and the implications of angular momentum in stellar formation. Participants delve into theoretical aspects, observational methods, and the complexities involved in understanding stellar dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the sun rotates, observable through sunspots, while questioning if all stars do the same.
  • Angular momentum is suggested as a key factor in the rotation of stars, with some arguing that it would be unusual for a star to have exactly zero angular momentum.
  • Methods for observing stellar rotation include spectral line broadening via the Doppler effect and brightness variations due to features like sunspots.
  • One participant proposes that the rotation of pulsars may be influenced by both the supernova explosion and the pre-existing rotation of the progenitor star, but acknowledges uncertainty in this area.
  • Another participant mentions that stars form from gravitational collapse of gas clouds, with rotation resulting from molecular collisions during this process.
  • It is noted that stars do not rotate as solid bodies do, exhibiting differential rotation where the rotational period varies with latitude and within the star itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the origins and implications of stellar rotation, with no consensus reached on whether all stars rotate or the specific mechanisms behind their rotation.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the observational capabilities to definitively determine the rotation of stars other than the sun. The discussion also highlights the complexity of angular momentum and its implications in stellar dynamics.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying astrophysics, stellar dynamics, or anyone curious about the processes involved in star formation and rotation.

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Does sun rotate around itself?
Do all of stars rotate around themsilves? If so, what is the origion of this rotation?
 
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angular momentum?
 
Yes, the sun rotates. It is easy to see that by keeping track of sunspots.

As to whether all other stars rotate or not, we cannot see them clearly enough to determine by observation but it would be very surprising if it were not so. In order that a start NOT rotate, its angular momentum, as Phrak suggests, would have to be exactly 0. It would very odd for a quantity like that to have a value of exactly 0.
 
HallsofIvy said:
As to whether all other stars rotate or not, we cannot see them clearly enough to determine by observation

There are apparently at least two ways to observe the effects of stellar rotation: broadening of spectral lines via the Doppler effect, and variations in brightness caused e.g. by sunspots moving in and out of view.

http://www.mtwilson.edu/hk/History/
 
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Thanks for your answers and interesting page!
Is it clear what the origion of stars' rotation is?
 
magic?
 
ok scratch my last answer. i am new and only 16 but i think its like this:

I have seen many posts saying that the stars spin, the spin is provoked by the conservation of angular momentum.
This is a theory though, since we cannot tell for sure if other stars rotate like our sun.

Though Pulsars rotate, the theory on this is: you take a large object with a slight rotation and compress it down, the rotation speed will increase.

We know pulsars rotate and can check their rotational speed by calculating by how rapidly they pulse.

The problem is.. We do not know if Pulsars rotate due to the SuperNova explosion or due to the previous star spinning and then being compressed and its rotational speed increasing... A computer simulation was made, and they sadly... found out that the spin was caused by the Super Nova explosion itself. {Meaning that the previous theory is now canceled out}

so... we still don't really know...

(Sorry for my spelling, language) I am not sure my answer is right but i tried.
 
Alex1995 said:
ok scratch my last answer. i am new and only 16 but i think its like this:

I have seen many posts saying that the stars spin, the spin is provoked by the conservation of angular momentum.
This is a theory though, since we cannot tell for sure if other stars rotate like our sun.

Though Pulsars rotate, the theory on this is: you take a large object with a slight rotation and compress it down, the rotation speed will increase.

We know pulsars rotate and can check their rotational speed by calculating by how rapidly they pulse.

The problem is.. We do not know if Pulsars rotate due to the SuperNova explosion or due to the previous star spinning and then being compressed and its rotational speed increasing... A computer simulation was made, and they sadly... found out that the spin was caused by the Super Nova explosion itself. {Meaning that the previous theory is now canceled out}

so... we still don't really know...

(Sorry for my spelling, language) I am not sure my answer is right but i tried.

Of course we can't know exactly for sure, but any star that has planets must be rotating as well, otherwise the planets wouldn't rotate as there would be know angular momentum in the initial cloud, which would completely condense into a star. Binary systems must similarly be rotating initially, and hence any stars would also rotate, it would require an initial momentum of exactly zero in the dust cloud for a star not to spin, which is highly unlikely, hence we can conclude that most if not all stars rotate.
 
Stars are formed by gravitational collapse of primordial gas clouds. Rotation is imparted as a consequence of molecular collisions during collapse.
 
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What's more, it might be noted that star's don't rotate like solid bodies, because they are gaseous, not solid. They exhibit "differential rotation", which means the rotational period (the "day") varies with latitude on the surface. It also varies in the interior, so the angular momentum history is very complex.
 

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