Understanding Two Dice Events: EF, E U F, FG, EF^(c), and EFG

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This discussion centers on the interpretation of events involving two dice, specifically the events E (sum is odd), F (at least one die shows 1), and G (sum is 5). The user questions the exclusion of the outcome (1,1) from the union of events E and F, E U F, asserting that it satisfies the conditions of both events. The correct solution confirms that (1,1) is indeed part of E U F, contradicting the textbook's claim. This highlights the importance of accuracy in educational materials, particularly in introductory probability courses.

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I have a problem that is suppose to be very basic, but it's hard for me to understand.

Problem:
Two dice are thrown. Let E be the event that the sum of the dice is odd; let F be the event that at least one of the dice lands on 1; and let G be the event that the sum is 5. Describe the events EF, E U F, FG, EF^(c), and EFG.
Note that EF means intersection of the two.

My problem is in E U F.
Why isn't it (1,1) considered? Doesn't it fulfill the requirements of either the sum of dice is odd OR at least one dice lands on a 1?
Namely, that one dice lands on a 1.


The solution from the book is:
S={ (1,2), (1,4), (1,6) ,( 2,1 ) , (4,1) , (6,1) , (2,3) ,(2,5) ,(3,2) , (3,4) ,(3,6 ) ,(4,3) , (4,5) , (5,2) , (5,4) , (5,6) , (6,3),(6,5) } Thank you.
 
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(1,1) is in E\cup F. If the book says it is not, then the book is wrong.
 
Thank you. It's very annoying to have books like this. My Introduction to Probability and Statistics is filled with typos. It's horrible to be introduced to Probability with textbooks like this.
 

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