Understanding Uncertainty in Fitted Models: A Scientist's Guide

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The discussion revolves around understanding how to establish uncertainty in fitted models, particularly focusing on the relationship between variance, standard deviation, and confidence intervals. Participants explore theoretical aspects and practical implications of these statistical concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how variance relates to uncertainty in their fitted model, noting their understanding of standard deviation and standard error but struggling to interpret uncertainty.
  • Another participant suggests that confidence intervals (CIs) might be relevant, questioning if they are calculated based on degrees of freedom and if variance can help determine confidence limits.
  • A later reply clarifies that confidence intervals generally assume a normal distribution and are based on the standard error, providing an informal example of how to gauge uncertainty using CIs.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between variance, spread of data, and the potential use of chi-squared values in determining confidence limits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of uncertainty from variance or the specifics of calculating confidence intervals, indicating that multiple views and uncertainties remain in the discussion.

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Limitations include the assumption of normal distribution for confidence intervals and the potential dependency on specific statistical models, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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Hey :-)
I want to establish the uncertainty in my fitted model to my data
I can evaluate the variance for the predicted model, but I'm getting very confused as to how the variance can then give me the uncertainty in my model :S
I know that the standard error of the mean may be taken as the standard deviation divided by the root of the number of measurements, and that the square root of the variance gives the standard deviation- but I am really struggling to see how from these I could interpret an uncertainty. I am very baffled at the moment- so any help would be massively appreciated :-)
Cheers
 
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Radiohannah said:
Hey :-)
I want to establish the uncertainty in my fitted model to my data
I can evaluate the variance for the predicted model, but I'm getting very confused as to how the variance can then give me the uncertainty in my model :S
I know that the standard error of the mean may be taken as the standard deviation divided by the root of the number of measurements, and that the square root of the variance gives the standard deviation- but I am really struggling to see how from these I could interpret an uncertainty. I am very baffled at the moment- so any help would be massively appreciated :-)
Cheers

Are you familiar with confidence intervals?
 
Is that similar to determining a 'confidence'... being some percentage calculated from a given number of degrees of freedom? I do think so. :-)

So, I might be wrong, but if the variance is a measure of the spread of the data (from my best fit model??) , I can determine some confidence limits? Does that come from a value for chi^2?
 
Radiohannah said:
Is that similar to determining a 'confidence'... being some percentage calculated from a given number of degrees of freedom? I do think so. :-)

So, I might be wrong, but if the variance is a measure of the spread of the data (from my best fit model??) , I can determine some confidence limits? Does that come from a value for chi^2?

Confidence intervals (CIs) generally assume an underlying normal distribution and are calculated based on the Gaussian model using the standard error of the sample(s) (which is an estimate of the standard deviation of the population). I won't tell you exactly how to calculate them. This is easily found in textbooks or on the web.

Note that the half-width of a CI relative to a point estimate is often (but not always) an intuitive way to gauge uncertainty. For example, suppose your point estimate is 2 and your 95% CI is 1.8 to 2.2. This means (informally) that you have a 10% uncertainty regarding the value of the point estimate with 95% confidence.

EDIT: More formally, this means that the estimated parameter is contained in the interval with p=0.95 based on a Gaussian model.
 
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Thanks
 
You're welcome.
 

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