US Military OCS, physical scientist.

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The discussion centers on the career path for physical scientists in the U.S. Military Officer Candidate School (OCS). Participants emphasize that while a physics B.S. can lead to roles in scientific departments, candidates should not expect to avoid combat, as military service inherently involves potential deployment to combat zones. The consensus is that advanced degrees, such as a PhD, are often necessary for higher-ranking scientific positions, but some members share experiences of transitioning to graduate school after initial service. Ultimately, the military's primary mission is combat, and candidates must align their expectations accordingly.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of U.S. Military structure and roles
  • Knowledge of Officer Candidate School (OCS) processes
  • Familiarity with military occupational specialties (MOS) related to science
  • Awareness of the implications of military service in combat zones
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  • Research the specific roles and responsibilities of 61S and 62E military scientists
  • Investigate the requirements and benefits of pursuing a PhD in military-related scientific fields
  • Explore the pathways to becoming an acquisitions officer (63A) in the military
  • Learn about the experiences of military officers in scientific roles through forums and firsthand accounts
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This discussion is beneficial for prospective military candidates with a background in physical sciences, current military personnel considering a transition to scientific roles, and individuals exploring the realities of military service versus academic aspirations.

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Does anyone have any experience with the military officer candidate school career path for physical scientists?

I would like to put my physics B.S. to use, but I don't think I can get into a graduate program. I also don't want to join just to get shipped into a combat zone.

What's it like?
 
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Back when I was searching I found that each of the branches have (unofficial) forums dedicated to everything OCS. Don't mean to take traffic away from here but you can likely get a ton of information there.

For example: http://www.usnavyocs.com/portal/index.php

All other branches have links on the side.
 
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You should not join with the expectation of avoiding combat. The job of the military is combat.
 
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What he said.
 
Yup. The better you are, the more likely that somebody will find a combat role for you. don't want to fight? Don't join.
 
In order to forge a career in one of these fields, you'll really need a PhD, in order to be able to carry advanced research at either a university or some research institute or a company that has reason to support scientific research and development.
 
You MUST serve a period of time in a combat zone - primarily Afghanistan or Iraq - after OCS. Otherwise don't join.

The only viable path is grad school.
 
Not necessarily. From what some of my training officers have told me, and the actual contracts I signed, once I obtain both my physics (b.s) and biology (b.s.) degrees, I will work in their scientific department, 61S Scientists for about 3 years, then head on to grad school so that I can satisfy a higher rank within the scientist bracket.

In your case, it really depends on what job you choose or MOS, they provide you with great jobs and depending on the need in certain areas, you have a higher chance than not in being placed in a job you want within the military. Most people on here say, "you will be in combat zones," which is pretty false considering military scientists are primarily housed on the home soil. Infantry, aviation, etc..., are all placed into combat situations as that is their primary MOS or occupation they have chosen.

Do not listen to the comments above, talk to other officers, etc..., who have more knowledge. I can only come from my own situation and how things have been playing out so far.
 
Well, I think your perspective might be different after you have actually been in.

In your specific case, the career path for 61S's (and 62E's) goes to 63A, acquisitions officer. Look at the people in 63A positions - see how many of them have field experience? That's because the Air Force is not going to trust the procurement of items necessary to its success to people without that experience.

More generally, the purpose of the armed forces is combat, and given a choice between what you want and "the needs of the service", the latter will win every time. Every single time. So while it is possible that one will never see the outside of the lab, you should never assume that you've joined "the other Army - the one with the condos". You need to be prepared for a conversation that goes like this:

"Lieutenant Butterbar? It turns out that we have this really nice billet for you all set up at Wright-Patt. Thing is, you see, they're not going to be ready for you for another, oh, six months or so. But don't worry - we've found a place to take you on for that time. It's in a place called Fallujah.".
 
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This is the kind of conflicting answer that will make me avoid it. However, do they really stick a gun in the hands of 'academics' and march them to the front line? Seems like a waste of an education, to me.
 
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feathermoon said:
This is the kind of conflicting answer that will make me avoid it. However, do they really stick a gun in the hands of 'academics' and march them to the front line? Seems like a waste of an education, to me.

Is your MOS infantry?

People always imagine the worst case scenario.
 
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feathermoon said:
This is the kind of conflicting answer that will make me avoid it. However, do they really stick a gun in the hands of 'academics' and march them to the front line? Seems like a waste of an education, to me.

You should not join the military. Seriously. Your world-view and theirs are not compatible.

From the military's point of view, combat is what they do. If you are well-educated, that serves the military only insofar as it improves their ability to successfully conduct their operations.
 

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