Vacuum Energy from Correlation Functions

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The discussion revolves around the computation of vacuum energy in quantum field theory (QFT) using n-point correlation functions, as opposed to field operators. Participants explore the relationship between correlation functions and expectation values, particularly in the context of vacuum states and other states.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to compute vacuum energy solely from n-point correlation functions, expressing a desire for sources discussing this method.
  • Another participant suggests that the Hamiltonian density can be expressed in terms of field operators, leading to a formulation of vacuum energy density using the 2-point function.
  • Some participants assert that any expectation value in the vacuum can be computed with n-point functions, while others question whether this extends to states that are not the vacuum, such as particle states.
  • A later reply states that expectation values for non-vacuum states cannot be computed directly from n-point functions.
  • There is a query regarding the interpretation of the propagator as a probability amplitude for finding a particle at a specific spacetime point, which is affirmed in the context of nonrelativistic quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that n-point functions can be used to compute vacuum expectation values, but there is disagreement on whether this applies to non-vacuum states. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent of applicability of n-point functions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the applicability of n-point functions to different states, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in these computations.

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In QFT the n point functions contain all the information about a QFT so how would one compute the vacuum energy just from the n point functions
In QFT the objects of interest are the n point Correlation functions which contain all the information about the theory and can be used to compute any expectation value in principle. However I cant figure out how to compute the vacuum energy from the correlation functions alone and cant find any sources or articles which discuss this computation.

Is there a way to do it with the n point functions only. I know how to compute the Vacuum Energy in QFT with the field operators but want to know how to compute it with the n point functions alone without the field operators.
 
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The Hamiltonian density is something like
$${\cal H}=\frac{1}{2}\dot{\phi}(x) \dot{\phi}(x)+\ldots$$
Hence the vacuum energy density with the operators is
$$\frac{1}{2}\langle 0|\dot{\phi}(x) \dot{\phi}(x) |0\rangle +\ldots$$
But ##\langle 0|\dot{\phi}(x) \dot{\phi}(x) |0\rangle## is just the 2-point function
$$\langle \dot{\phi}(x) \dot{\phi}(x)\rangle = \lim_{x'\to x} \partial_0\partial'_0\langle \phi(x) \phi(x')\rangle$$
which tells you how, in principle, to compute the vacuum energy density in terms of ##n##-point functions.
 
I see also is it true in principle any expectation value can be computed with the n point functions
 
I would say any expectation value in the vacuum can be computed with the n-point functions.
 
Demystifier said:
I would say any expectation value in the vacuum can be computed with the n-point functions.
What about expectation values for states which aren’t the vacuum like particle states can all those be computed with the n point functions
 
Also one more question can the Propagator G_2(x1-x2) be thought of as the Probability amplitude for a Particle to be found at spacetime point x1 created by a delta function source at spacetime point x2
 
masteralien said:
Also one more question can the Propagator G_2(x1-x2) be thought of as the Probability amplitude for a Particle to be found at spacetime point x1 created by a delta function source at spacetime point x2
Yes, at least in nonrelativistic QM.
 

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