Vague definition of the word molecule

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The discussion revolves around the definition of the term "molecule," particularly whether a single atom can be classified as a molecule. Participants explore various definitions and interpretations, including the status of noble gases in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a molecule is defined as a bond between two or more atoms, while others argue that a molecule can also refer to a single atom, particularly in the case of noble gases.
  • One participant cites the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry's definition, which states that a molecule is "an electrically neutral entity consisting of more than one atom," suggesting that single atoms should not be considered molecules.
  • Another participant agrees with the definition and emphasizes the distinction between atoms and molecules, using oxygen as an example to illustrate the difference.
  • There is a consensus among some participants that noble gases are not classified as molecules, although it is noted that they can form molecules under certain conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on whether a single atom can be classified as a molecule, with some asserting that noble gases are atoms, while others suggest they can be considered molecules under specific definitions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the ambiguity in the definition of "molecule" and the reliance on specific definitions from authoritative sources, which may not resolve the differing interpretations among participants.

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The word molecule has several definitions, but which one is considered the right one? The biggest question is if a single atom is still a molecule. Some call a helium atom a (monatomic) molecule. But others state that a molecule is a bond between two or more atoms. Some also say a molecule is the smallest part which contains it's chemical characteristics, which means that noble gasses are molecules. An others just say molecules consist of one or more atoms. I think it very important this is clear, so who can help me, are the noble gasses called molecules or just atoms?

(I know you can't really compare them because they're two on different levels, but still...)
 
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The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry defines a molecule as "An electrically neutral entity consisting of more than one atom." As someone with training in chemistry, I would not call a single atom a molecule. For example, we often make a distinction between oxygen atoms (O) and oxygen molecules (O2).
 
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Ygggdrasil said:
The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry defines a molecule as "An electrically neutral entity consisting of more than one atom." As someone with training in chemistry, I would not call a single atom a molecule. For example, we often make a distinction between oxygen atoms (O) and oxygen molecules (O2).

So the noble gasses are atoms not molecules?
 
Yes, I would not consider the noble gasses (Ne, He, Ar, etc.) to be molecules. Some of the noble gasses can form molecules (e.g. XeF4), however.
 
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Ygggdrasil said:
Yes, I would not consider the noble gasses (Ne, He, Ar, etc.) to be molecules. Some of the noble gasses can form molecules (e.g. XeF4), however.

Alright thank you very much
 

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