Varying determinant of a metric

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The discussion centers on the calculation of the variation of the determinant of the metric tensor, specifically \(\delta (det|g_{\mu\nu}|)\) or \(\delta g\). The participants reference Jacobi's formula for derivatives of determinants and identify a sign error in the expression for \(\delta g_{\mu\nu}\). They clarify that the correct relationship is \(\delta g_{\mu\nu} = - g^{\alpha\mu} g^{\beta\nu} \delta g_{\alpha\beta}\), and provide a specific case using \(g_{\mu\nu} = \lambda \eta_{\mu\nu}\) to illustrate the sign discrepancies in the calculations.

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Hi does anyone know how to calculate:

\delta (det|g_{\mu\nu}|) or simply \delta g
 
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Or equivalently,

δg = g gμν δgμν
 
You should get δg=ggμνδ(gμν)
Actually I believe this answer has a sign error, and does not correspond to what I wrote, since δgμν = - gμα gνβ δgαβ.

A quick way to check the sign is to consider a special case, gμν = λ ημν under the variation δλ. For this case,

gμν = λ-1 ημν and g = -λ4, so δgμν = ημν δλ and δg = -4 λ3 δλ.

The minus sign agrees with the expression I gave, namely g gμν δgμν = (-λ4)(λ-1ημν)(ημν δλ).

However the other expression g gμν δ(gμν) = (-λ4)(λ ημν)(-λ-2) (ημν δλ) comes out positive, which is incorrect.
 
Bill_K said:
Actually I believe this answer has a sign error, and does not correspond to what I wrote, since δgμν = - gμα gνβ δgαβ.

A quick way to check the sign is to consider a special case, gμν = λ ημν under the variation δλ. For this case,

gμν = λ-1 ημν and g = -λ4, so δgμν = ημν δλ and δg = -4 λ3 δλ.

The minus sign agrees with the expression I gave, namely g gμν δgμν = (-λ4)(λ-1ημν)(ημν δλ).

However the other expression g gμν δ(gμν) = (-λ4)(λ ημν)(-λ-2) (ημν δλ) comes out positive, which is incorrect.

You're right. Thanks for the correction.
 
yeah thanks i knew the answer but had absolutely no idea how to get it, I end up with g^{\nu\rho}g_{p\mu}\delta g^{\mu p}=-g^{\nu\rho}g^{\mu p} \delta g_{p\mu} and am not sure how to proceed from here, there is clearly relabelling but I am still a bit stuck.
 

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