Vector Division: An Explainer of Why It's Not Possible

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The discussion revolves around the concept of vector division, exploring why it is generally considered not possible within standard vector spaces, while also examining alternative mathematical frameworks where division-like operations may be defined. The scope includes theoretical considerations, mathematical reasoning, and conceptual clarification.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the definition and feasibility of vector division, asking why it is not possible.
  • Others propose that matrix inversion could be viewed as a form of vector division, though they note that only square matrices are invertible.
  • A participant suggests that in two-dimensional vectors, division can be defined using complex numbers and complex division, referencing the use of Clifford Algebra for more general cases.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes the distinction between "not possible" and "not defined," indicating that while vector division is not defined in standard vector spaces, more complex mathematical structures may allow for division-like operations.
  • Some participants highlight the utility of geometric algebra in physics, suggesting that while non-standard operations can be defined, their usefulness in practical contexts should be considered.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the possibility and definition of vector division, with no consensus reached. Some argue it is not possible, while others suggest it can be defined under certain mathematical frameworks.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reveals limitations in the definitions of vector spaces and the conditions under which division-like operations may be applicable, particularly in advanced mathematical contexts.

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why is vector division not possible?
 
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What is vector division?
 
For two-dimensional vectors you can define division easily by representing a vector ##[a,b]## by a complex number ##a+bi## and using complex division:$$
\begin{bmatrix}
a\\
b
\end{bmatrix}/
\begin{bmatrix}
c\\
d
\end{bmatrix} := (a+bi)(c+di)^{-1}
$$
For a more general solution, any vector space with an inner product can be embedded (in a geometrically natural way) inside a larger structure called a Clifford Algebra in which you can divide by a vector ##v## provided ##v\cdot v \neq 0## (which happens often in special relativity!). The mathematics of these larger systems is known as Geometric Algebra.

Also keep in mind that whilst it is often possible (and kinda fun!) to define non-standard mathematical operations, the real question you need to ask is whether it is useful to do so; especially if the context is physics. It turns out that geometric algebra is an extremely valuable tool in almost every branch of physics.
 
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Atizaz Ahmed said:
why is vector division not possible?
We must distinguish between "is not possible" and "is not defined". For example, in the standard definition of a "vector space", the division of vectors is not defined . Some teachers may present this fact by saying that the division of vectors "is not possible" in order to advise their students not to waste their time trying to divide vectors when doing homework problems.

From a very advanced point of view there can be examples of things that are both "vector spaces" and also more complicated mathematical structures. If you are told about the more complicated structure then you may also be told about a way to do division in it.
 

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