Vectors & Section Formula: Proving Collinearity

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Help! Vectors!

Homework Statement



In the triangle ABC, D divides AB in the ratio 3:2, E divides DC in the ratio 1:5 and F divides AC in the ratio 1:2. Show (using position vectors and the section formula) that B, E and F are collinear and find BE:EF


Homework Equations



Section formula = [tex]\frac{m \textbf{a} = n\textbf{b}}{m+n}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Other than drawing this out, and spotting that they look like they're kind of in a line.
This isn't due for homework or anything, I'm just revising, so it would be really useful if someone cold explain this to me.

Any ideas?
 
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Hi andrew.c! :smile:

Use the section formula to find the vectors D E and F

for example, F = … ? :smile:
 


F = [tex]\frac{a+2c}{3}[/tex] ?
 
andrew.c said:
F divides AC in the ratio 1:2.
andrew.c said:
F = [tex]\frac{a+2c}{3}[/tex] ?

Almost … but it's closer to A,

so f = (2a + c)/3 :wink:

Next, what are D and E? :smile:
 


AD/DB = 3/2

sec. formula...

[tex]\frac{3a+2b}{5}[/tex]

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DE/EC = 1/5

sec. formula...

[tex]\frac{d+5c}{6}[/tex]
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I still don't really understand which value in the ratio is m and which is n, I am just reading it as AD/DB = m/n. Is this right?
 
andrew.c said:
I still don't really understand which value in the ratio is m and which is n …

Forget the formula

I never remember which way round it is …

I just ask myself each time "which one is it nearer?"

so if DE:EC = 1:5, then it's nearer D, so … ? :smile:
 


ok, i get that logic :)

so it would be...

[tex]D = \frac{2a+3b}{5}[/tex]

and

[tex]E = \frac{5d+6}{c}[/tex]
 
Yup! :biggrin:

(except for the obvious mistake … quick! edit it before anyone else notices! :wink:)

ok, now you have the vectors for B E and F …

how can you prove they're collinear? :smile:
 


OK, so I have...

[tex]D = \frac{2a+3b}{5}[/tex] [tex]E=\frac{5d+c}{6}[/tex] and [tex]F = \frac{2a+C}{3}[/tex]

For collinearity, I need to prove that BE is parallel to EF, with a common point at E?

I tried this, but not sure if its right - i got the bottom lines to be the same, but my notes indicate that they should be a scalar multiple of each other!

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Sub. D into E to get...

[tex]E = \frac{2a+3b+c}{6}[/tex]

[tex]BE = e-b<br /> =\frac{2a+3b+c}{6} - b<br /> =\frac{2a+3b+c}{6}-\frac{6b}{6}<br /> =\frac{2a-3b+c}{6}[/tex]

[tex]EF = f-e<br /> =\frac{2a+c}{3}-\frac{2a+3b+c}{6}<br /> =\frac{4a-2c}{6} -\frac{2a+3b+c}{6}<br /> =\frac{2a-3b+c}{6}[/tex]

Since they are equal, and E was a common point, they are collinear?

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Is BE:EF just 1:1 ?

Thanks for your help btw!
 
andrew.c said:
… Since they are equal, and E was a common point, they are collinear?

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Is BE:EF just 1:1 ?

Thanks for your help btw!

Yes, that's very good

(except you typed a minus for a plus in the last line :rolleyes:)

the vectors BE and EF are exactly the same, in other words BE = EF, so yes, obviously it's 1:1 :smile:
 


Ta muchly for your help!

Now i need to tackle vectors intercepting planes. Oh joy of joys!