Verify that ## 17 ## divides ## 11^{104}+1 ##

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The discussion revolves around verifying whether 17 divides the expression \(11^{104} + 1\), utilizing concepts from number theory, particularly Fermat's theorem and modular arithmetic.

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  • Participants explore the application of Fermat's theorem to establish the divisibility of \(11^{104} + 1\) by 17. There are discussions on the clarity of certain calculations, particularly regarding the equivalence of \( (11^2)^4 \) modulo 17. Some participants suggest alternative methods using modular arithmetic without Fermat's theorem.

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The discussion includes various perspectives on the proof provided, with some participants questioning the completeness of certain steps. There is acknowledgment of the proof's clarity, but also a recognition of the need for additional calculations to enhance understanding. Multiple approaches are being considered, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Participants note the importance of clarity in mathematical proofs and express a desire to avoid skipping steps in calculations. There is a mention of the time constraints affecting the discussion, as well as a recognition of personal habits that may impact the presentation of mathematical arguments.

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Homework Statement
Use Fermat's theorem to verify that ## 17 ## divides ## 11^{104}+1 ##.
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Proof:

Fermat's theorem states:
Let ## p ## be a prime and suppose that ## p\nmid a ##. Then ## a^{p-1}\equiv 1\pmod {p} ##.
By using Fermat's theorem, we will prove that ## 17 ## divides ## 11^{104}+1 ##.
Suppose ## a=11, p=17 ## and ## p\nmid a ##.
Then ## 11^{17-1}\equiv 1\pmod {17}\implies 11^{16}\equiv 1\pmod {17} ##.
Observe that ## 104=16\cdot 6+8 ##.
This means
\begin{align*}
&11^{104}\equiv 11^{16\cdot 6+8}\equiv [(11^{16})^{6}\cdot 11^{8}]\pmod {17}\\
&\equiv [1^{6}(11^{2})^{4}]\pmod {17}\equiv 16\pmod {17}.\\
\end{align*}
Thus ## 11^{104}+1\equiv 0\pmod {17}\implies 17\mid (11^{104}+1) ##.
Therefore, ## 17 ## divides ## 11^{104}+1 ##.
 
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You could have given me an additional calculation ##(11^2)^4\equiv (121)^4\equiv 2^4\equiv 16\pmod{17}## as it is not immediately clear that ##(11^2)^4 \equiv 16\pmod{17}.## On the other hand, maybe it is just the time difference, will say already evening over here.

That's all. The rest is fine.
 
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fresh_42 said:
You could have given me an additional calculation ##(11^2)^4\equiv (121)^4\equiv 2^4\equiv 16\pmod{17}## as it is not immediately clear that ##(11^2)^4 \equiv 16\pmod{17}.##

That's all. The rest is fine.
I apologize. I always tend to skip a few steps when writing proofs.
 
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It's a bad habit and I must abandon this vice.
 
Math100 said:
It's a bad habit and I must abandon this vice.
Don't mind. I was just lazy. Your proof is well written so it can be read fluently, except that nobody knows what ##11^8## is. :wink:
 
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nice job. note that it is also fairly easy to do this directly by repeated modular arithmetic, without fermat, using that 11 is -6, mod 17, and 6 is 2 times 3 and 2^4 is -1, and 3^4 is -4, hence 3^8 is -1, mod 17. hence (11)^104 is -1, mod 17.
 
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