Want to pursue a masters in physics

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The discussion centers on the considerations and requirements for pursuing a master's degree in physics, particularly for someone without an undergraduate degree in physics or a STEM field. Participants explore the necessary foundational knowledge in physics and mathematics, as well as the potential challenges of balancing this learning with ongoing commitments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines a "canonical" undergraduate physics curriculum, suggesting key subjects such as classical mechanics, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, and statistical mechanics, along with recommended textbooks for each area.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of a solid mathematics background, questioning whether the original poster has the necessary math skills to support their physics studies.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of learning all required physics and mathematics within the two-year timeframe while also completing a master's in communication.
  • There is a mention of location-specific requirements, noting that in some countries, a bachelor's degree in physics or mathematics may be necessary before pursuing a master's in physics.
  • Participants inquire about the original poster's motivations and goals for pursuing a master's in physics, suggesting that clarity on this could influence their path forward.

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Participants express varying views on the prerequisites for entering a master's program in physics, with some emphasizing the need for a strong foundation in both physics and mathematics, while others focus on the logistical challenges of self-study alongside other commitments. No consensus is reached regarding the best approach or the feasibility of the original poster's plan.

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Participants note potential limitations related to the original poster's background in mathematics and the necessity of formal coursework to demonstrate knowledge for admission into a physics master's program. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the specific requirements based on different educational systems.

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I have always wanted to study physics. When I was in high school, my guidance counselor told me it would be a waste of time as I would not get a job. So I settled for another major. I have a job and I'm getting a masters in communication (another field that catches my interest). Now I want to pursue what I wanted before, as my interest has not changed. I have been studying independently but as I work full time have not learned everything formally. I have 2 years to finish this masters and I wish to pursue a masters program in physics when I am done with this masters. What courses , topics should I know to meet the requirements for a physics masters? Could someone give me an order from the most rudimentary subject I should know to the upper level things I should know. I want to use these 2 years wisely.

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There is a "canonical" undergraduate physics curriculum that consists of classical mechanics, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, and statistical mechanics. Some examples of textbooks at the appropriate levels: Marion and Thornton for classical mechanics, Griffiths for electromagnetism and quantum (yes, he wrote very good undergraduate level books on both these subjects), and Reif for statistical mechanics. I always wanted there to be some one book that would have everything, but there really isn't. However, after you have been through these subjects once, the Compendium of Theoretical Physics by Wachter and Hoeber is really helpful to work through. In addition, this book goes on into lots of graduate level stuff.
 
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I have always wanted to study physics. When I was in high school, my guidance counselor told me it would be a waste of time as I would not get a job. So I settled for another major. I have a job and I'm getting a masters in communication (another field that catches my interest). Now I want to pursue what I wanted before, as my interest has not changed. I have been studying independently but as I work full time have not learned everything formally. I have 2 years to finish this masters and I wish to pursue a masters program in physics when I am done with this masters. What courses , topics should I know to meet the requirements for a physics masters? Could someone give me an order from the most rudimentary subject I should know to the upper level things I should know. I want to use these 2 years wisely.

Thanks.

There is something I don't quite understand here, or at least, if I understood this correctly, it is very puzzling. Let's see if I got this right:

1. You don't have an undergraduate degree in physics. In fact, your undergraduate degree is not in a STEM subject.

2. You are now pursuing a Masters degree in Communication and have 2 years to complete it.

3. You want to use these 2 years while pursuing this Masters degree to also learn all the necessary undergraduate physics and all the necessary mathematics.

Did I get this right?

What you never clarified:

1. How good is your mathematics background? You may think you only have to study physics, but the tools you need to do physics is equally essential, so you can't just do physics. The work load is more than you think.

2. Were you intending to enroll in a proper course and get official credit and grade for the physics classes? If yes, do you think you are able to handle all the work load and the difficult physics classes, considering that you'll be taking many of them simultaneously? If no, then what official credential will you use when you apply for a Physics Masters degree program to show that you have the knowledge for such a program?

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Another thing I'm missing here is your location.
I can tell you that for example in Belgium you will need to do a bachelors in physics or mathematics first. (That's the shortest path)
If you already had a bachelors in engineering (as an example), you'd need to take a year for getting up to speed, e.g. more quantum mechanics, Lagrangian mechanics (probably). In my current institution it seems the curriculum for such a year is built on a per-student basis. It entails at least 54 credits (almost a full year).

Secondly, what do you hope to gain from this endaveour?
 

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