Wave Vector Algebra: Proving k = 2∏/λ

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the general wavenumber \( k \) and its component equations, specifically the equation \( k = \frac{2\pi}{\lambda} \). Participants are exploring the definitions and derivations related to wavenumbers and wavelengths in a wave vector context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to derive the formula for wavelength \( \lambda \) from the component equations and questioning the validity of the relationship between general and component wavenumbers. There is discussion about the definitions of \( \lambda \) and the implications of the equations provided.

Discussion Status

The conversation is actively exploring the connections between component wavenumbers and the general wavenumber, with some participants suggesting that the relationships may not correspond as initially expected. There is a hint towards vector operations that could clarify the relationship, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and relationships between wavenumbers and wavelengths, noting discrepancies in how these quantities relate to each other in the context of wave vectors. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the derivation and justification of these relationships.

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I'm having difficulty showing that the general equation k = 2∏/λ holds from the component equations kx = 2∏/λx etc..., k = √(kx2 + ky2 + kz2), and λ = √(λx2 + λy2 + λz2). Any help? There is a photo from a textbook with the equations also below.

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what are you defining λ to be?

edit: also, if you use λ in the equation k = 2∏/λ then you can see it doesn't work.
 
Yes, I'm just tryin to derive the formula for λ from the component formulae, but obviously (as you state) it doesn't seem to work. What then, is the justification for the association between the general wavenumber and the component wavenumbers if they don't correspond in the natural way?
 
the general wavenumber does correspond in the natural way to the component wavenumbers. But the general wavenumber does not correspond in the natural way to the component wavelengths. Is this what you were thinking about?
 
Yes, precisely. I wonder, then, how the component wavenumbers (and their corresponding component wavelengths) are related to the general wavenumber and wavelength?
 
if you think about the vector wavenumber and vector wavelength: (kx,ky,kz) (call it k) and (λx,λy,λz) (call it λ) then there is a nice equation you can write, which involves the two vectors k and λ (hint: what kind of operation can you use between two vectors?)
 

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