Weak interactions: I know why they're weak, but why are they slow?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of weak interactions in particle physics, specifically addressing the relationship between their perceived weakness and slowness. Participants explore theoretical aspects, including the probability of weak interactions occurring and the time scales involved in these processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the "weakness" and "slowness" of weak interactions may be related, proposing that both can be viewed as having a low probability of occurring.
  • One participant references the Fermi rule, noting that the probability of decay per unit time is proportional to the square of the coupling constant, and expresses frustration over the lack of convincing derivations in textbooks.
  • Another participant states that weak interactions are characterized by low probabilities of occurrence and longer time scales, specifically mentioning a typical duration of about 10^-6 seconds for weak events.
  • There is a mention of different textbooks providing various treatments of the Fermi rule, with some participants expressing differing opinions on which is the clearest.
  • One participant argues that weak interactions are not intrinsically slow, citing examples like neutrino events that are rare but not slow, and attributes longer lifetimes of weak decays to kinematic factors related to the heavy mass of the W boson.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the weakness and slowness of weak interactions, with no consensus reached on whether these properties are fundamentally connected or distinct.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reference the lack of comprehensive derivations in standard textbooks, indicating potential limitations in understanding the underlying principles of weak interactions.

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Compared to, for example, electromagnetic interactions.

Are the "weakness" and "slowness" perhaps somehow related? Perhaps both "weakness" and "slowness" can both be reformulated as "having a low probability of occurring", making the "slowness" apparent, and making the "weakness" a time-averaged result.
 
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See e.g. the Fermi rule: The probability PER UNIT TIME of decay is proportional to the square of the coupling constant.

By the way, it is quite frustrating to see that most textbooks on quantum mechanics or quantum field theory do not contain a convincing derivation of the Fermi rule and exponential decay law. One of the rare textbooks that does contain a convincing derivation is the old textbook by E. Merzbacher (1961).
 
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We know Weak interactions are weak because of their low probability of happening at all but when they do happen they also take their time about it - about 10-6s.

It is my understanding that these are different properties and the fundamental forces are like that because that is how they are.
Now watch someone correct me :)
 
most textbooks on quantum mechanics or quantum field theory do not contain a convincing derivation of the Fermi rule and exponential decay law.
Messiah Chap XVII beats it to death. But actually Schiff I think has the clearest treatment. He points out that Fermi originally called it "Golden Rule #2". (Rule #1 was the second order perturbation formula.)
It is my understanding that these are different properties and the fundamental forces are like that because that is how they are.
Now watch someone correct me :)
Ok, sure! :smile: Weak interactions are not intrinsically slow. Neutrino events in OPERA, for example, are rare but not slow. Also the weak coupling constant g is not that much smaller. The reason weak decays have a longer lifetime is kinematical: the heavy mass of the W.
 

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