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The discussion clarifies that electrons with higher quantum numbers (N) possess more energy in terms of being less negative compared to those with lower N. In a 1/r potential, the total energy of bound states is negative, meaning higher N corresponds to a smaller negative energy value. Consequently, while higher N electrons require less energy to be ionized, their kinetic energy is actually lower than that of ground state electrons. Understanding the sign and magnitude of energy in quantum mechanics is crucial for grasping these concepts.

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Hello, why do the electrons with higher quantic number N have more energy than the electrons with lower N if they need less energy to be removed from the atom?

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That's because the total energy of a bound state in a 1/r potential (or any potential that is zero at infinity) is generally taken to be negative, so what we mean by "higher" can be confusing. A high-n means the energy is more than a low-n, but that's because it is a smaller negative number at high n-- the magnitude of the energy is actually smaller for high n, because the total energy is negative (relative to a free electron). So to get the particle to go from bound to free, you at least need to get its energy to go from -X to 0, where "X" is a positive number that is smaller for high n. X is also the (positive) energy you need to give the electron to get it to ionize.

Another thing that confuses people is that the kinetic energy of an electron at high n is actually less than the kinetic energy of an electron in a ground state, for a 1/r potential. Here the ground state is a state of large (in magnitude) but negative energy, and this total comes from a very large positive kinetic energy combined with an even larger (in magnitude) negative potential energy. The sign of the energy is very important in all this, and is different from a particle in a simple harmonic potential and a particle in a box (which generally have positive total energy and greater kinetic energy for larger n).
 
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