Were we really created from supernovas?

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The discussion revolves around the origins of life on Earth, specifically the theory that life may have arisen from the aftermath of supernova explosions. Participants explore various aspects of stellar evolution, nucleosynthesis, and the implications of dark matter and dark energy on our understanding of the early universe.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that life on Earth may have originated from materials produced in supernova explosions, referencing the processes of stellar nucleosynthesis.
  • One participant describes the fusion processes in stars, noting that smaller stars produce lighter elements while larger stars can create heavier elements before undergoing supernova explosions.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of r-process nucleosynthesis from neutron stars as a potential explanation for the production of heavy elements, contrasting it with the light elements produced during the Big Bang.
  • A participant questions the assertion that the only matter in the early universe was hydrogen, arguing that the presence of dark matter and dark energy complicates this understanding and requires further justification.
  • Another participant clarifies that dark matter and dark energy are not considered "normal matter" and thus may not be relevant to the discussion of stellar processes and the origins of life.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the origins of elements and the implications of dark matter and dark energy. There is no consensus on the assumptions about the early universe or the role of dark matter in the context of stellar evolution.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions of matter in the context of cosmology and the implications of dark matter and dark energy on established models of the early universe. The discussion highlights the complexity of these topics without resolving the underlying questions.

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Hello, I'm just doing some research on how life on Earth started (for my own reasons) and I seen that a theory was we came to be from the aftermath of supernovas.

Is this the case? Has this been proved for sure?
 
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Hello, I'm just doing some research on how life on Earth started (for my own reasons) and I seen that a theory was we came to be from the aftermath of supernovas.

Is this the case? Has this been proved for sure?

In the beginning the only matter was hydrogen. By fusion process in the star hydrogen forms to heavier element. Smaller stars stop forming element relative early. The last matter they build is lighter then iron. Then the gases expand and they then shrink to a dense dwarf. That's a well known fact and many smaller stars in different stages has been observed. I'm not sure if they get scattered and become part of other planets and stars.

Big stars however eventually forms iron and after that nothing can keep the enormous mass in the same volume as before. That's because the fusion process after iron lose binding energy, so the energy to expand the mass get less and less but the mass and gravity is still the same. After forming iron they implode with an unbelievable pressure which actually can form these heavier elements. These leads soon to an supernova explosion. The matter from these definitely get scattered far away. Ending up in nebulous, stars and planets.

If its proven? Yes big stars has been observed in many stages including supernovas. The light spectra from stars tells what elements they consist of as any spectra.
 
r-process nucleosynthesis in ejecta from neutron stars is an emerging candidate to explain heavy element production, e.g., http://arxiv.org/abs/1307.2939, The long-term evolution of neutron star merger remnants - I. The impact of r-process nucleosynthesis. The big bang produced only light elements, primarily hydrogen and helium with a sprinkling of elements through boron. Heavier elements are produced by stellar processes.
 
Earl of Plasma said:
In the beginning the only matter was hydrogen.

IMO that assertion needs justification.

I don't have any problem with the experimental evidence that new stars consist mostly of hydrogen, and synthesize heavier elements through fusion.

But given that most of the "known" universe appears to consist of dark matter and dark energy, neither of which are understood, it seems a bit presumptuous to assume that if our current models of the early universe predict that the all of the earliest matter was light elements, that prediction is beyond question.

(But I'm no expert here - I haven't read much about cosmology since the books by George Gamow et al!)
 
Aleph, I don't think dark matter and dark energy are included in the term "matter". So while both dark matter and dark energy almost certainly existed, they aren't included in the discussion here because they aren't normal matter.
 

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