What Are Common Feedback Mechanisms in Everyday Life?

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The discussion revolves around identifying common feedback mechanisms encountered in everyday life, focusing on their sensing mechanisms, actuation mechanisms, control computations, and the uncertainties they address. The scope includes theoretical and practical applications of feedback systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Participants propose various feedback systems such as toilet water tanks, cruise control, elevators, and climate control, detailing their sensing and actuation mechanisms.
  • Some participants express uncertainty regarding the control computation and robustness aspects of these systems.
  • One participant suggests considering feedback mechanisms that involve human interaction and electronic examples.
  • A participant mentions Watt's governor as a historical example of speed control in steam engines.
  • Another participant provides clarification on cruise control, suggesting that the sensing mechanism could be a tachometer or speedometer and notes the need for adjustments based on changes in inclination.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the control computation and robustness aspects of the feedback systems discussed. Participants express uncertainty and seek further clarification on these points.

Contextual Notes

Some participants are unsure about the definitions and implications of control computation and robustness in the context of feedback systems, indicating a need for further exploration of these concepts.

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Homework Statement


Identify 10 feedback systems that you encounter in your everyday environment. For each system, identify the sensing mechanism, actuation mechanism and control computation. Describe the uncertainty with respect to which the feedback system provides robustness and/or the dynamics that are changed through the use of feedback.


Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution



1) Toilet water tank
Sensing mechanism - Float
Actuation mechanism - When the water level goes down, the float goes down which it opens the fill valve. As the water fills the tank, the float goes up & at a certain point, closes the fill valve.
Control Computation - No idea
Uncertainty/robustness etc - Not sure

2) Cruise Control
Sensing mechanism - whatever measures the speed in a car.
Actuation - Solenoid driven throttle and brake?
Control Compution - ?
Uncertainty/Robustness - not sure

3) Elevator
Sensing mechanism - Sensors at each floor level.
Actuation - Sensors stop the elevator?
Control Compution -?
Uncertainty/Robustness - not sure

4) Climate Control
Sensing mechanism - thermometer
Actuation - ON/OFF of compressor.
Control Compution - ?
Uncertainty/Robustness - not sure


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phiby said:

Homework Statement


Identify 10 feedback systems that you encounter in your everyday environment. For each system, identify the sensing mechanism, actuation mechanism and control computation. Describe the uncertainty with respect to which the feedback system provides robustness and/or the dynamics that are changed through the use of feedback.


Homework Equations


NA

The Attempt at a Solution



1) Toilet water tank
Sensing mechanism - Float
Actuation mechanism - When the water level goes down, the float goes down which it opens the fill valve. As the water fills the tank, the float goes up & at a certain point, closes the fill valve.
Control Computation - No idea
Uncertainty/robustness etc - Not sure

2) Cruise Control
Sensing mechanism - whatever measures the speed in a car.
Actuation - Solenoid driven throttle and brake?
Control Compution - ?
Uncertainty/Robustness - not sure

3) Elevator
Sensing mechanism - Sensors at each floor level.
Actuation - Sensors stop the elevator?
Control Compution -?
Uncertainty/Robustness - not sure

4) Climate Control
Sensing mechanism - thermometer
Actuation - ON/OFF of compressor.
Control Compution - ?
Uncertainty/Robustness - not sure


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That's a great start! Keep going...

Think of some that involve a human as the feedback part...

Think of more electronic examples...

You already have automotive cruise control, but how did the old steam engines control their speed...?
 
berkeman said:
That's a great start! Keep going...

Think of some that involve a human as the feedback part...

Think of more electronic examples...

You already have automotive cruise control, but how did the old steam engines control their speed...?

Watt's governor :-)

Anyway I have no idea what to write in the control computation, robustness etc etc.
 
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Hi Phiby, I will help with one of your current choices and maybe that can help with the others.

2) Cruise Control
Sensing mechanism - whatever measures the speed in a car. Tachometer/Speedometer
Actuation - Solenoid driven throttle and brake? Good but lever not solenoid
Control Compution - ? Comparison of desired set speed to actual speed
Uncertainty/Robustness - not sure Makes adjustments for sudden changes in inclination (speeds up or slows down)
 
LabGuy330 said:
Hi Phiby, I will help with one of your current choices and maybe that can help with the others.

2) Cruise Control
Sensing mechanism - whatever measures the speed in a car. Tachometer/Speedometer
Actuation - Solenoid driven throttle and brake? Good but lever not solenoid
Control Compution - ? Comparison of desired set speed to actual speed
Uncertainty/Robustness - not sure Makes adjustments for sudden changes in inclination (speeds up or slows down)

Thank you. In Actuation - what lever are you referring to?
 

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