What are some tips for succeeding in a competitive engineering program?

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The discussion revolves around strategies for succeeding in a competitive engineering program, specifically at the University of Toronto (U of T). Participants share advice on managing academic workload, time management, and balancing social activities with studies, while expressing concerns about the challenges of first-year courses in engineering.

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  • One participant expresses anxiety about entering a competitive engineering program and seeks advice on succeeding academically and identifying challenging courses.
  • Another participant suggests that students can only effectively manage two out of three activities: studying, sleeping, and partying, implying the need for prioritization.
  • A participant from UT Austin emphasizes the importance of planning classes and utilizing tutoring services, noting that they relied heavily on tutoring for their academic success.
  • Concerns are raised about the impact of partying on academic performance, with suggestions to be strategic about social activities, especially before early classes.
  • A second-year physics student advises that incoming students should manage their time effectively and utilize study opportunities, such as studying on public transport or at the library.
  • One participant argues that consistent daily study can prevent last-minute cramming and that professors are generally understanding of students' struggles with difficult material.
  • Another participant reflects on the tendency of upper-year students to share horror stories about first-year experiences, suggesting that these narratives may be exaggerated and that first-year engineering is relatively uniform across institutions.
  • A participant shares their own strategy of working hard to understand concepts as they prepare to start a competitive computer science program.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of time management and the potential challenges of first-year courses. However, there are differing views on the extent of difficulty and the impact of social activities on academic success, with no consensus on the best approach to balancing these aspects.

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Some participants mention specific challenges related to course loads and the structure of their programs, indicating that experiences may vary based on individual circumstances and institutional policies.

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Incoming university students, particularly those entering competitive engineering or STEM programs, may find the shared experiences and advice relevant to their transition to higher education.

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Hi, I'm going into 1st year university in the fall and I'm kind of nervous because I'm attending a really competitive engineering program in the U of T (Engineering Science). Does anyone have any general advices on how I could succeed academically? What are some courses that are typically hard in 1st year engineering? I've heard some scary stories about programming, math, and physics.
 
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So I'm currently a junior Physics/Math major, but I heard some good general advice this summer that I wish I had heard earlier. There's three main things that college students do; study, sleep, and party. You only have the time to do two of these things reasonably well, although to be fair it IS possible to do a lousy job at all of them. Choose wisely.
 
pjfoster said:
So I'm currently a junior Physics/Math major, but I heard some good general advice this summer that I wish I had heard earlier. There's three main things that college students do; study, sleep, and party. You only have the time to do two of these things reasonably well, although to be fair it IS possible to do a lousy job at all of them. Choose wisely.

lol I don't plan to party since my program is eliminating the bottom 30% after 1st year
 
I'm guessing U of T stands for University of Texas? or Tennessee? I go to UT Austin and the advice I can give is to plan out your 4 year classes you're planning on taking.

Also, I've made As in most of my classes not because I'm particularly academically competent but because I go to tutoring every week - in fact I've done most (probably 75%) of my studying in my college's tutoring center.

Most universities have free tutoring for math + science usually up to sophomore level. UT Austin offered free tutoring for Calculus 1 - 3 and physics + chemistry.

You can party just be smart about it, if you have a class at 8 or 9 am the next day don't be up at clubs getting krunk until 5 am and wake up and vomit during the prof's lecture. Fridays are the best day to party and then have saturday as a recoop day then Sunday a study/hang out day.

Also I wouldn't advise taking any more or any less than 5 classes your first semester. 5 classes is the average load and you should become comfortable with the work load.
 
Eric_meyers said:
I'm guessing U of T stands for University of Texas? or Tennessee? I go to UT Austin and the advice I can give is to plan out your 4 year classes you're planning on taking.

Also, I've made As in most of my classes not because I'm particularly academically competent but because I go to tutoring every week - in fact I've done most (probably 75%) of my studying in my college's tutoring center.

Most universities have free tutoring for math + science usually up to sophomore level. UT Austin offered free tutoring for Calculus 1 - 3 and physics + chemistry.

You can party just be smart about it, if you have a class at 8 or 9 am the next day don't be up at clubs getting krunk until 5 am and wake up and vomit during the prof's lecture. Fridays are the best day to party and then have saturday as a recoop day then Sunday a study/hang out day.

Also I wouldn't advise taking any more or any less than 5 classes your first semester. 5 classes is the average load and you should become comfortable with the work load.

Thanks for the reply

Sorry for not being clear in my first post. U of T stands for University of Toronto. I have to take 6 classes and the classes are pre-registered for me by the faculty so I can't do anything about it. I'm going to try to refrain from partying in my first year and see how it goes because I'm living in residence. I'm not that smart either which is why I'm very worried right now.
 
Red_CCF said:
Thanks for the reply

Sorry for not being clear in my first post. U of T stands for University of Toronto. I have to take 6 classes and the classes are pre-registered for me by the faculty so I can't do anything about it. I'm going to try to refrain from partying in my first year and see how it goes because I'm living in residence. I'm not that smart either which is why I'm very worried right now.

Ah another Torontonian. I myself am a second year physics student that goes to the University of Ottawa, but a couple of my friends are doing engineering at UoT.

For you to get into UoT it means that you have a firm grasp of the material your studying so you shouldn't have to much problems with the work. The problem however, especially in first year is managing your time effectively, which can be difficult with the amount of assignments you have and if you have a bad schedule it can really cause problems. So if you can do little things like studying on the bus on your way to school, perhaps staying at the library to study after your class instead of going home and coming back in 4 hours for another class will save you lots of time which can be used to study.

Manage your time well and you'll do fine.
 
anubis01 said:
Ah another Torontonian. I myself am a second year physics student that goes to the University of Ottawa, but a couple of my friends are doing engineering at UoT.

For you to get into UoT it means that you have a firm grasp of the material your studying so you shouldn't have to much problems with the work. The problem however, especially in first year is managing your time effectively, which can be difficult with the amount of assignments you have and if you have a bad schedule it can really cause problems. So if you can do little things like studying on the bus on your way to school, perhaps staying at the library to study after your class instead of going home and coming back in 4 hours for another class will save you lots of time which can be used to study.

Manage your time well and you'll do fine.

Thanks!
 
Very rarely are college courses so astronomically paced so as to overwhelm you - I'm a junior in physics and so far the only times I get into trouble are when I spend a week of not studying and then try to cram things 2 days before an exam.

If you study a little bit every day you should find college relatively easy although again tutoring + professor office hours are lifelines.

Also, you don't have to be "smart" to exceed in university, most professors give allowances that students have difficulty with ~ well difficult material. Talk to your professors and get their feedback.
 
as my old math teacher used to tell us: "University's are full of average people that try hard."

my situation is close to yours, I'm starting at U of Waterloo CompSci in 2 weeks which is also a relatively competitive program (competing for co-op spots). my game plan is to work hard to understand all concepts.
 
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Upper year students like to tell horror stories to frighten incoming students. For one thing, that first year can be tough, and now they have something to be proud of having gotten through. For another, horror stories can help in justifying poor marks. There's also a fair amount of school and program pride that comes into play too. Everyone wants to believe that they've come through the toughest program going, and that their marks would have been higher had they attened some 'weaker' program.

The bottom line is that most often these horror stories are just stories. First year engineering is pretty uniform from school to school, especially in Canada, so I wouldn't worry too much about it before you even start class.

There's a lot of good advice up here. Put the appropriate amount of time into your studies and balance that with enough extra-curricular stuff to keep you happy and well-motivated and you should be fine.
 
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endless06 said:
as my old math teacher used to tell us: "University's are full of average people that try hard."

my situation is close to yours, I'm starting at U of Waterloo CompSci in 2 weeks which is also a relatively competitive program (competing for co-op spots). my game plan is to work hard to understand all concepts.

Oh cool Waterloo is a great school, I have a couple of friends going there, maybe you'll meet them. I plan to do the same, hopefully I can stick to it
 

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