What Are the Bounds in Position Space After a Fourier Transform?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the transformation of a wave function from momentum space to position space using Fourier transforms. Participants explore the implications of the wave function being bounded in momentum space and the resulting characteristics in position space.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the bounds in position space after performing a Fourier transform on a wave function defined in momentum space.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on what is meant by "bounded by constants," leading to a specification of the momentum bounds as being between -ϒ+p_0 and ϒ+p_0.
  • Discussion arises regarding the exact shape of the wave function in momentum space, with one participant suggesting it is a rectangle of height C and width 2Y.
  • There is uncertainty expressed about the resulting wave function in position space, with one participant initially providing an incorrect value for the position space wave function.
  • Participants discuss the normalization of the wave function in momentum space and the process of taking the Fourier transform, with one participant indicating they feel they are not progressing correctly.
  • Another participant provides the integral form of the Fourier transform and asks how to proceed with the calculation.
  • There is a suggestion that the wave function in position space is unbounded, though this is not universally accepted as a conclusion.
  • One participant considers whether changing the form of the exponential in the integral would be beneficial, while another suggests it is easier to remain in exponential form.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the characteristics of the wave function in position space, with multiple views on whether it is bounded or unbounded and how to approach the Fourier transform calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the exact calculations and the implications of the wave function's shape in momentum space on its position space counterpart. There are unresolved steps in the mathematical process of the Fourier transform.

NickCouture
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If I have a wave function given to me in momentum space, bounded by constants, and I have to find the wave function in position space, when taking the Fourier transform, what will be my bounds in position space?
 
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What do you mean by "bounded by constants"?
 
blue_leaf77 said:
What do you mean by "bounded by constants"?
p is found from -ϒ+p_0 to ϒ+p_0 where ϒ and p_0 are positive constants.
 
So, your wavefunction is strictly bound in momentum space. But what is the exact shape of it in between those boundaries?
 
blue_leaf77 said:
So, your wavefunction is strictly bound in momentum space. But what is the exact shape of it in between those boundaries?
It is equal to another constant, C, between those bounds
 
Which means the momentum space wavefunction forms a rectangle of height C and width 2Y. And you want to calculate its position space version, do you know where you should start from? Or have you even got your result?
 
blue_leaf77 said:
Which means the momentum space wavefunction forms a rectangle of height C and width 2Y. And you want to calculate its position space version, do you know where you should start from? Or have you even got your result?
I've normalized the wave function in momentum space and I've started taking the Fourier transform of the normalized function over the same bounds given above. It does not look like I'm going in the right direction.
 
What function do you get in position space? Is it even bound at all?
 
blue_leaf77 said:
What function do you get in position space? Is it even bound at all?
It gives me 1/√(2ϒ)
 
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Is that the wavefunction in position space you have calculated? If yes, then you have certainly made a mistake. It will be helpful if you can provide your work so that we can find where you have made the mistake.
 
  • #11
blue_leaf77 said:
Is that the wavefunction in position space you have calculated? If yes, then you have certainly made a mistake. It will be helpful if you can provide your work so that we can find where you have made the mistake.
Oh I'm sorry that was my answer for momentum space. In position space I haven't found an answer yet.
 
  • #12
You start from
$$
\psi(x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi \hbar}} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\phi(p) e^{ipx/\hbar} dp = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi \hbar}} \int_{p_0-Y}^{p_0+Y} \frac{1}{\sqrt{2Y}} e^{ipx/\hbar} dp
$$
How will you execute the next step?
 
  • #13
blue_leaf77 said:
You start from
$$
\psi(x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi \hbar}} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\phi(p) e^{ipx/\hbar} dp = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi \hbar}} \int_{p_0-Y}^{p_0+Y} \frac{1}{\sqrt{2Y}} e^{ipx/\hbar} dp
$$
How will you execute the next step?
Yes that's what I have, I then compute the integral?
 
  • #14
NickCouture said:
Yes that's what I have, I then compute the integral?
Yes of course. In the end you should find that the wavefunction in position space is unbounded.
 
  • #15
blue_leaf77 said:
Yes of course. In the end you should find that the wavefunction in position space is unbounded.
would it be useful to change my exponential into the form cos(theta)+isin(theta)?
 
  • #16
It is easier to stay in exponential form, do you know how to integrate an exponential function?
 
  • #17
blue_leaf77 said:
It is easier to stay in exponential form, do you know how to integrate an exponential function?
Yes. Thank you for your help!
 

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