What Are the Final Velocities in a Perfectly Elastic Collision Problem?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a perfectly elastic collision between two carts with specified masses and initial velocities. The objective is to determine the final velocities of both carts after the collision using principles of conservation of momentum and kinetic energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of momentum and kinetic energy equations, with one participant noting difficulties in obtaining correct values. There is a focus on substitution methods and the manipulation of equations to isolate variables.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the equations and attempting to clarify their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding solving for variables and substituting them into equations, though no consensus on the final values has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential errors in substitution and the need for clarity in the equations being used. The discussion reflects an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved in the collision.

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Homework Statement


In an isolated system, cart1 (with mass = 1 kg and vi1 = 2) has a perfectly elastic collision with cart2 (with mass = 2 kg and vi2 = 0). Find the velocity of cart1 and the velocity of cart2 after the collision.
I have to solve this using kinetic energy and momentum equations.


Homework Equations


m1vi1 + m2vi2 = m1v1f + m2v2f
1/2m1vi12 + 1/2m2vi22 = 1/2m1v1f2 + 1/2m2v2f2


The Attempt at a Solution


I have gotten to this point:
2= V1F + 2V2F
4= V1F2 + 2V2F

but I cannot get the numbers to work out correctly.
Using another equation I know that V1f = 2/3 and V2f = 4/3

I am doing substitution wrong or something.
Please help!
 
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southernbelle said:

The Attempt at a Solution


I have gotten to this point:
2= V1F + 2V2F
This makes sense.
4= V1F2 + 2V2F
How did you get this?
 
I got that by solving the kinetic energy equation.
I mutiplied both sides by 2 to get rid of the halves.

It is actually supposed to read:

4 = Vif^2 + 2V2f^2
 
southernbelle said:
It is actually supposed to read:

4 = Vif^2 + 2V2f^2
That's good.

Take the first equation and solve for one of your variables. Then substitute that into the second equation. Solve the quadratic.
 

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