What are the fundamental proportional relationships in basic physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying and compiling a list of fundamental proportional relationships in basic physics. Participants explore various examples and the nuances of these relationships, including their dependencies on other variables.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a comprehensive list of basic physics proportional relationships, citing examples such as the direct proportionality of magnetic field strength to current and the inverse relationship with distance.
  • Another participant reiterates the request for a list and provides a link to a resource that may contain relevant information.
  • A different participant introduces a general formula to illustrate proportional relationships, suggesting that if certain variables are fixed, others can be shown to be proportional or inversely proportional.
  • One participant cautions against assuming a fixed set of proportional relationships, using Ohm's Law as an example to demonstrate that proportionality can depend on which variables are held constant.
  • This participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the equations and the context of the variables involved in determining proportional relationships.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a definitive list of proportional relationships. There is recognition of the complexity and variability of these relationships depending on the context and the variables involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of assuming a static collection of proportional relationships, as many depend on the conditions under which variables are held constant or varied.

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I was wondering if there are place on the internet where I can find a list of basic physics proportional relations.
For example, a proportionaln relationship is that B (magnetic field strength) is directly proportional to I (current) and inversely proportional to R (distance).
also, something like distance traveled is directly proportional to average speed.
I just need a list of all these basic physics proportional relationships.

Thanks so much!
 
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superaznnerd said:
I was wondering if there are place on the internet where I can find a list of basic physics proportional relations.
For example, a proportionaln relationship is that B (magnetic field strength) is directly proportional to I (current) and inversely proportional to R (distance).
also, something like distance traveled is directly proportional to average speed.
I just need a list of all these basic physics proportional relationships.

Thanks so much!

http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/ap/students/physics/info_equation_tables_2002.pdf
 
Everywhere a formula shows things multiplied or divided, but there is no square, square root, trig function, etc.

Suppose ABCDE=FGHIJ

For any given value of ABCD, and any given value of FGHI, E is proportional to J. If you double one, you would double the other.

For any given value of ABCDE and any given value of FGH, I is inversely proportional to J. On you double one, the other would become one-half its former value.
 
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thx bp ppsy
 
I strongly suggest you read what mikelepore said, because you might be setting yourself up for a possible confusion if you think that there is a SET collection of such a thing. For example, look at Ohm's Law

V=IR

Is V proportional to I? Or is V proportional to R? Both are correct if the other variable is kept constant. So already you have two proportionality relationship here. It gets more involved if the equation is more complicated, such as the thin lens equation

1/f = 1/i + 1/o

Can I say that 1/f is proportional to 1/i if I keep o constant? etc.. etc.

It is better to learn the equation and to know what it means, and then learn how one deduce a proportionality based on what quantities are being varied and what are being held constants.

Zz.
 
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