What Are the Most Romantic Old-Time Science Phrases?

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The discussion centers around the exploration of old-fashioned scientific terms and phrases that evoke a sense of romance or nostalgia. Participants share their favorite terms from various scientific fields, including chemistry, physics, and historical science, while also considering the aesthetic qualities of these terms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions "luminiferous aether" and "spiritus sylvestre" as examples of romantic scientific terms.
  • Another asks whether the focus is on quotes from scientists or simply interesting names.
  • Terms like "phlogiston" and "dephlogisticated air" (oxygen) are suggested as evocative phrases.
  • "Natural Philosophy" is noted as an old term for science itself.
  • Participants mention "ultraviolet catastrophe" and "cold fusion" as intriguing phrases.
  • A reference is made to "Firedamp," a term for a flammable gas in coal mines, along with its historical context involving Humphrey Davy and Michael Faraday.
  • Old medical terms such as "vapours" and "melancholia" are brought up, with one participant recalling Victorian-era associations.
  • Discussion includes the historical naming of X-rays as "Roentgen rays" and the cultural persistence of this term in Poland and Japan.
  • Terms like "vitriol" for sulfuric acid and "aqua regia" are noted for their historical significance and evocative nature.
  • Quantum entanglement is mentioned, along with its German phrase "spukhafte Fernwirkung," as a modern scientific term that could fit the theme.
  • Unity is humorously referred to as a fancy name for the number 1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants share a variety of terms and phrases, but there is no consensus on a definitive list or the most romantic terms. Multiple competing views and interpretations of what constitutes a romantic scientific phrase remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some terms are specific to certain scientific fields or historical contexts, and the romantic quality of these terms may depend on personal interpretation and cultural background. The discussion reflects a mix of nostalgia, humor, and curiosity about the language of science.

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My girlfriend's scheming up some kind of project, and she has requested a list of neat old-fashioned terms used in science. I don't know what she's up to, but it sounded fun. They don't necessarily have to be old, but they have to sound romantical. I was surprised out how few I could think of. I'm sure there are tons, but I seem to be blanking. My list so far only includes the luminiferous aether and "spiritus sylvestre", an old name for carbon dioxide. So I thought I'd ask the Physics forums. What are your favorite swoon-inducing phrases from the history of science?
 
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Are you talking about actual quotes from famous scientists or cool sounding names?
 
Phlogiston.

Dephlogisticated air = oxygen.
 
Science itself used to be called "Natural Philosophy".
 
Ultraviolet catastrophe.
 
Cold fusion.
 
There's a list of archaic chemistry terms here:

http://web.lemoyne.edu/~giunta/archema.html

I came across "Firedamp" the other day reading a book about Michael Faraday. It's a name given to a flammable gas (probably but I think not specifically, methane) that accumulated in coal mines and sometimes exploded. Humphrey Davy (Chemist, and Faraday's mentor), and Faraday, designed a lamp that would consume this gas and emit light, which was fairly ingenious I thought!

Apparently gases were called 'damps' back in the day.

"Gases (other than air) in coal mines in England were collectively known as 'damps'. This comes from the German word Dampf (meaning 'vapour'), ..." from the Firedamp link above.
 
Adyssa said:
Apparently gases were called 'damps' back in the day.

"Gases (other than air) in coal mines in England were collectively known as 'damps'. This comes from the German word Dampf (meaning 'vapour'), ..." from the Firedamp link above.
Gas as "damp" is a mining term only, and refers to harmful gasses that seep into mines. All these terms were carried over to the US and any old Pensilvania coal miner is familiar with them. I did a research project in those miners in college. No one ever mentioned "stinkdamp", but firedamp, blackdamp, and whitedamp (which wiki calls "afterdamp") were a miner's constant fear.

The famous phrase "canary in a coal mine" refers to the miners practice of taking a caged canary into the mine with them because the little bird would succumb to the gas before the miners would. It was a warning signal that poisonous or unbreathable gas was building up. A "canary in a coal mine", therefore, is often used as a metaphor for any person or thing that is more sensitive to impending trouble than others.
 
There is nothing like the caloric flow on a dog day, due to Sol.
 
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Ozone hole
 
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Old medical terms vapours and melancholia.
 
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Evo said:
Old medical terms vapours and melancholia.

Dyspepsia!

And what's that thing lots of women had, in the Victorian days?
 
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There's a whole writing style.

See if this translatoin of Lavoisier's inrtoduction to chemistry inspires her. I paticularly like his quote of "Abbe d Condillac" near the end.

http://web.lemoyne.edu/~giunta/lavpref.html
 
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motte's translation of Newton's principia is full of archaic mathematical terms
 
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X-rays were commonly called Roentgen rays, even though Roentgen himself called them X-rays.
There were all manner of elixers and tinctures and essences of [insert element here].
Originally, there were only 4 elements: earth, air, fire and water.
Biblical stuff can give all sorts of examples, simply because the languages involved were so limited. For instance, the word "firmament" is usually translated as "sky". The actual meaning is "bowl", so you can either look up at the firmament to admire the stars, or you can feed your cat out of it. Anything even vaguely hemispherical received that name.
Medieval times were one of the richest sources if you get into the terms of alchemists. (I don't consider that to be science, but it passed as such at the time.)
 
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Danger said:
X-rays were commonly called Roentgen rays, even though Roentgen himself called them X-rays.

In Poland it is still the case. Even the film with the picture that you take to the doc is called "rentgen". "The rentgen shows you have a broken leg".
 
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Cool. I did not know that.
 
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Borek said:
In Poland it is still the case. Even the film with the picture that you take to the doc is called "rentgen". "The rentgen shows you have a broken leg".
In Japan also an x-ray is called a Roentgen.
 
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Thanks guys, these are all great. Also, I just thought of another one. Vitriol, for sulfuric acid. Seems like most of these are coming from the chemists. They apparently knew how to name things! Keep 'em coming!
 
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Opus_723 said:
Vitriol, for sulfuric acid.

Hmmm... I used to scratch my head when told that my personality was vitriolic; now I'm just proud. :approve:
 
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Aqua regia

really strong acid
 
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Quantum Entanglement. Or "spukhafte Fernwirkung".
 
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unity is a fancy name for the number 1.
 
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flatmaster said:
Aqua regia

really strong acid

actually a mixture of hydrochloric acid & nitric acid, but more importantly it's a good excuse to bring up an awesome story of how it was used to hide two nobel-winning chemists' medals from nazis during ww2 :approve:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_regia#History
 

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