What Are the Values of c and d for This Precalculus Limit Problem?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a limit as x approaches 2 for the expression (x^2 - cx + d) / (x^2 - 4), with the goal of determining the values of c and d such that the limit equals 3. The subject area is precalculus, specifically focusing on limits and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss cross-multiplying to simplify the limit expression and explore the implications of the denominator approaching zero. Some suggest that the numerator may need to factor similarly to the denominator to achieve the desired limit. Others question the applicability of L'Hôpital's rule in this context.

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The conversation includes various attempts to manipulate the limit expression algebraically, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the feasibility of finding a solution through algebra alone. There are indications of differing opinions on the values of c and d, and some productive suggestions have been made regarding the structure of the numerator.

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Participants note that the problem is situated within a precalculus framework, which may limit the techniques available for solving the limit. There is also mention of the need for careful evaluation of limit expressions, as straightforward algebraic manipulation may not yield valid results.

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Homework Statement


limit as x approaches 2 of [ (x^2-cx+d)/(x^2-4) ] = 3. What is the value of c and d?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I tried cross multiplying to get (x^2 - cx + d) = 3x^2 - 12, and I was thinking of moving combining like terms and maybe factoring but I can't ever seem to get the right answer.
 
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Lennie Oswald said:

Homework Statement


limit as x approaches 2 of [ (x^2-cx+d)/(x^2-4) ] = 3. What is the value of c and d?

Homework Equations


Limits

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried cross multiplying to get (x^2 - cx + d) = 3x^2 - 12, and I was thinking of moving combining like terms and maybe factoring but I can't ever seem to get the right answer.
The denominator factors into (x - 2)(x + 2). If you assume that the numerator also has a factor of either x + 2 or x - 2, what would the other factor have to be to result in a limit of 3? An educated guess or two will be helpful.
 
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Just for curiosity, can we apply L' hospital's rule here, assuming the numerator to be 0 when x→2 ?
 
Molar said:
@Mark44
Just for curiosity, can we apply L' hospital's rule here, assuming the numerator to be 0 when x→2 ?
I didn't think of doing that, but it seems to work. That technique wouldn't be available in a precalculus setting, which is what I assumed by where you the OP posted the question.
 
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Mark44 said:
I didn't think of doing that, but it seems to work. That technique wouldn't be available in a precalculus setting, which is what I assumed by where you posted the question.
(@Molar isn't OP.)
 
Mark44 said:
The denominator factors into (x - 2)(x + 2). If you assume that the numerator also has a factor of either x + 2 or x - 2, what would the other factor have to be to result in a limit of 3? An educated guess or two will be helpful.
I tried that but I want to know how to solve it algebraically.
 
Lennie Oswald said:
I tried that but I want to know how to solve it algebraically.
I don't think that's possible.

In the limit, the denominator ##x^2 - 4## goes to 0 as x → 2.

Cross multiplying means that you are multiplying the RHS by zero as well, leaving ##x^2 - cx + d = 0##, for which there can be an infinite number o' solutions.

Evaluating limit expressions sometimes takes subtlety, where applying algebra will fail or mislead you.
 
SteamKing said:
I don't think that's possible.

In the limit, the denominator ##x^2 - 4## goes to 0 as x → 2.

Cross multiplying means that you are multiplying the RHS by zero as well, leaving ##x^2 - cx + d = 0##, for which there can be an infinite number o' solutions.

Evaluating limit expressions sometimes takes subtlety, where applying algebra will fail or mislead you.
Thanks! I ended up getting c = 8 and d = -20
 
Mark44 said:
The denominator factors into (x - 2)(x + 2). If you assume that the numerator also has a factor of either x + 2 or x - 2, what would the other factor have to be to result in a limit of 3? An educated guess or two will be helpful.
Thanks for your help!
 
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Lennie Oswald said:
Thanks! I ended up getting c = 8 and d = -20
I get a different sign for one of those.
 
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Lennie Oswald said:

Homework Statement


limit as x approaches 2 of [ (x^2-cx+d)/(x^2-4) ] = 3. What is the value of c and d?

Homework Equations


Limits

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried cross multiplying to get (x^2 - cx + d) = 3x^2 - 12, and I was thinking of moving combining like terms and maybe factoring but I can't ever seem to get the right answer.

It is easiest to substitute ##x = 2 + h## in both the numerator and denominator. Your ratio must make sense as ##h \to 0##, and the limit must = 3. That gives you two conditions involving the two parameters ##c, d##.
 

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