What Are the Values of Young's Modulus and Poisson's Ratio for Sand?

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The discussion centers around the values of Young's modulus and Poisson's ratio for sand, including the influence of density and moisture content on these properties. Participants explore the implications of these values in the context of calculating erosion and energy loss in impact scenarios.

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  • One participant requests specific values for Young's modulus and Poisson's ratio for sand, noting the importance of density in determining these properties.
  • Another participant questions the applicability of Young's modulus and Poisson's ratio to sand, arguing that sand is not a continuous material and suggesting that density should be specified with moisture content.
  • A participant clarifies that they are attempting to calculate erosion caused by sand grains, specifically in the context of high-velocity air-blown sand.
  • A separate inquiry is made regarding the calculation of energy loss of a spherical particle upon impact, indicating that basic kinetic energy equations may not suffice and requesting references for more precise calculations.

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Participants express differing views on the applicability of Young's modulus and Poisson's ratio to sand, with no consensus reached on the values or their relevance to the erosion calculations. The discussion also includes varying approaches to calculating energy loss in impacts, indicating multiple perspectives on the topic.

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Participants highlight the need for specific conditions, such as moisture content and the type of sand, which may affect the requested values. There is also an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in applying traditional material properties to granular materials like sand.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying material properties in geotechnical engineering, erosion processes, or impact dynamics involving granular materials.

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dear all,

pls inform me the Young's modulus (in Pa) and Poisson's ration for sand. Pleae also inform the density of sand taken (as it affects the requested values).

many thanks in advance
kind regards,

rana
 
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I honestly do not see how you can have a Young's Modulus or Poisson's Ratio for a grain. The material not continuous.

Density would have to be specified with a specific moisture content as well.

What leads you to ask this question? Are you trying to calculate something?
 
sir,

yes, i am trying to calculate erosion caused by sand grain.

there are may literature data available for various tyoes of sand, and so i am confused.
i am using sand blown by air (maybe dry quicksand or something) at high velocities..

hope to get the values..a reference to online literature would also be helpful.

thank you.
 
energy of impact

dear all,

i would like to calculate the energy loss of a spherical particle after it hits the wall.
i know the pre- and post-impact velocties and the coefficients of restitution.

simple E = E1 = 1/2*m*u^2 is not enough.

can someone point me any exact references.

thanks in advance.
 

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