What does complex potential energy mean for a particle?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of complex potential energy in quantum mechanics, specifically addressing whether an imaginary component of potential energy can have real physical implications. Participants explore theoretical and computational aspects related to this topic.

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  • One participant questions the existence of real cases where potential energy has an imaginary part, referencing Griffith's textbook.
  • Another participant argues that measurable physical quantities like energy cannot be complex numbers, suggesting that the imaginary part is merely a computational tool used in numerical calculations of quantum systems.
  • A participant expresses frustration regarding Griffith's treatment of the topic, questioning the clarity and rigor of his explanations, particularly in relation to decay processes and the Wigner-Weisskopf approximation.
  • Links to external resources are provided to support claims about decay and perturbation theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the interpretation of complex potential energy, with some viewing it as a computational trick while others question its validity in real scenarios. The discussion remains unresolved with competing views on the implications of imaginary potential energy.

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Participants reference specific theoretical frameworks and approximations, such as time-dependent perturbation theory and the Wigner-Weisskopf approximation, without reaching consensus on their applicability to the discussion of complex potential energy.

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Griffith says in problem 1.15 the potential energy has an imaginary part. my question is that any real case exists where the part of the potential energy is imaginary?
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Measurable physical quantities like energy can never be complex numbers. The thing described there is just a computational "trick". A similar effect can be produced by setting a complex mass or time variable. This can be used in the numerical calculation of the ground state of a quantum system, as I have done in this blog post of mine: https://physicscomputingblog.com/20...art-5-Schrödinger-equation-in-imaginary-time/
 
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thanks for the reply.
 
Sigh :-(. Is this again from Griffiths's QM textbook? I cannot understand how an expert of the subject can be so sloppy and confusing for students. That's the more ununderstandable since he's obviously a brillant teacher of physics, as one can get from reading is electromagnetics textbook and many articles in AJP.

To understand "decay", particularly the exponential-decay law (which is necessarily an approximation only), you need to consider time-dependent perturbation theory. The standard treatment is known as Wigner-Weisskopf approximation. Here's a very clear derivation on the example of spontaneous emission, but it's of course applicable very generally

https://www.mpi-hd.mpg.de/personalhomes/palffy/Files/Spontaneous.pdf
 
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vanhees71 said:
Sigh :-(. Is this again from Griffiths's QM textbook? I cannot understand how an expert of the subject can be so sloppy and confusing for students. That's the more ununderstandable since he's obviously a brillant teacher of physics, as one can get from reading is electromagnetics textbook and many articles in AJP.

To understand "decay", particularly the exponential-decay law (which is necessarily an approximation only), you need to consider time-dependent perturbation theory. The standard treatment is known as Wigner-Weisskopf approximation. Here's a very clear derivation on the example of spontaneous emission, but it's of course applicable very generally

https://www.mpi-hd.mpg.de/personalhomes/palffy/Files/Spontaneous.pdf
Thank you.
 

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