What does mass, volume and density of displaced water mean?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of buoyancy, specifically focusing on the meaning of displaced water in relation to mass, volume, and density. The original poster expresses confusion regarding how these properties of displaced water relate to the properties of objects submerged in water.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the volume of displaced water and the volume of submerged objects, questioning whether the mass and density of displaced water can be equated to those of the objects. Some participants explore the implications of different densities on whether objects float or sink.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts of buoyancy and displacement. Some participants have provided clarifications that seem to aid understanding, while others have posed additional questions that extend the discussion into comparative scenarios involving mass and volume.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the definitions of mass, volume, and density in the context of buoyancy, and how these relate to the physical behavior of objects in water. There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the comparison of mass and volume between objects and displaced water.

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Homework Statement


I was having a lecture of buoyancy and I am confused about the meaning of displaced water. I asked my classmates about it and they said it is essentially the volume of the object when you put the object into the water. So now the question comes.

There are three objects placed into three different cups of water. Object A floats. Object B sits in the middle of the water and object C sinks. Compare the mass, volume, density of each object to the mass, volume and density of the "displaced water" they are sitting in, respectively?


Homework Equations


F = PA
P = pgh
B = pgV



The Attempt at a Solution


Okay, I think I just do not get what the question is talking about. If the displaced water is the volume of the object, what does mass, volume, and density of the displaced water mean? Volume of displaced water should simply mean volume of the object, and density of displaced water should just be density of water (I am guessing here, correct me if I am wrong). But what is the mass of the displaced water? Does that mean mass of the volume of object, which means mass of the object? I am comparing the mass of object to mass of displaced water. If they are the same, how do I compare!
 
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Alright, for starters...volume of displaced water does not necessarily mean volume of object. You have to compare the density of the object vs. the density of water...if the density of the object > density of water, what would happen to the object? How about if density of the object < density of water? Finally, what about density of the object = density of water?
 
okay, youve got three objects. You need to undertand this basic concept about bouyancy: When an object is placed in water, it displaces a certain volume of water. This volume is equal to the volume of the part of the obect inside of the water (the volume where water would be were there no object). Now , if the water that is displaced has greater weight than the object itself (of course the entire object, not just the part in water) then the object will float. Think about this--if the weight of the object were greater, then the object would sink, so what does that say about the density of the object compared to water? If two volumes are equal but one has greater mass, you should see that the density of the one of greater mass had better be greater.
 
Ja4Coltrane said:
okay, youve got three objects. You need to undertand this basic concept about bouyancy: When an object is placed in water, it displaces a certain volume of water. This volume is equal to the volume of the part of the obect inside of the water (the volume where water would be were there no object). Now , if the water that is displaced has greater weight than the object itself (of course the entire object, not just the part in water) then the object will float. Think about this--if the weight of the object were greater, then the object would sink, so what does that say about the density of the object compared to water? If two volumes are equal but one has greater mass, you should see that the density of the one of greater mass had better be greater.
wow, THANKS. I finally got what displaced water means. You just answered my question that I've been thinking for 2 hours!
 
I have an extension of this question,but posed a different way.

What will displace more water- an object with greater mass, or greater volume?

For instance, if you have a glass of water and you drop an object in that is heavy (mass), but relatively small in size versus dropping an item that is much larger in size (volume), but not nearly as heavy, which item would displace more?

The second part of the question.

Assume you had two items of the same size (volume), but two different weights or mass.

Would the displacement be the same based on volume, or greater based on mass?
 

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