What does the notation | | mean?

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The discussion revolves around the notation | | in mathematics, particularly its meanings in different contexts such as set theory, graph theory, and linear algebra. Participants explore various interpretations and applications of this notation without reaching a consensus.

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  • Some participants note that in the context of a pseudograph, |E| denotes the number of edges in the edge set E.
  • Others propose that | | generally refers to "cardinality," "magnitude," or "size" of a mathematical object.
  • One participant mentions that |x| can represent the absolute value of a number, which is also described as its magnitude or distance from the origin.
  • Another participant emphasizes that for vectors, ||v|| is often used to denote magnitude, distinguishing it from the absolute value of scalars.
  • There is a suggestion that the term "size" could encompass all interpretations of the notation across different contexts.

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Participants express various interpretations of the notation | |, with no clear consensus on a single definition. Multiple competing views remain regarding its meaning in different mathematical contexts.

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Some definitions depend on specific mathematical contexts, and the discussion highlights the potential for ambiguity in the notation's interpretation.

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For example my textbook reads if G(V, E) is a pseudograph then [math]\sum\limits_{v \in V} deg(v) = 2|E|[/math]
 
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In the most general sense, it refers to the notion of "cardinality", "magnitude", "size", etc.. of the mathematical object in question. In this particular case, it denotes the number of edges in the edge set $E$.

A few possible meanings of the symbol (there are many more):

- For a set $S$, $|S|$ is the number of elements in $S$.

- For a complex number $x$, $|x|$ is the distance from $x$ to the origin.

- For a vector $\mathbf{v}$, $|\mathbf{v}|$ (sometimes denoted $||\mathbf{v}||$) is the magnitude or norm, that is, the length, of $\mathbf{v}$.
 
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This will sound ridiculous but I have seen that mean "absolute value"?

\(\left|-3\right|=3\)

But I have hear that referred to as "magnitude" as well. I am just spitballing here; if I had to go with anyone response, I would go with Bacterius.

EDIT: After re-reading Bacterius' post several times, mine almost looks childish... (Speechless)
 
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As far as I know for a graph $G$ , $V$ represent vertices and $E$ represent Edges . A distance in a graph does not make sense , so $$|E|$$ would be the number of edges .
 
alane1994 said:
This will sound ridiculous but I have seen that mean "absolute value"?

\(\left|-3\right|=3\)

But I have hear that referred to as "magnitude" as well. I am just spitballing here; if I had to go with anyone response, I would go with Bacterius.

EDIT: After re-reading Bacterius' post several times, mine almost looks childish... (Speechless)

It's all the same thing.
The absolute value is the magnitude of the number, which is also the distance of the number -3 to the origin, or the length of the vector (-3) in 1 dimension.

In linear algebra $|| \cdot ||$ is often (but not always) used instead of $| \cdot |$ to distinguish the length of a vector from the magnitude of a scalar.
 
Actually, I like to call it the "size" of whatever you use it for.
That sort of seems to fit all categories, including sets.
 

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