What does the symbol Vdash mean?

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The discussion revolves around the meaning of the symbol Vdash, particularly in the context of a theorem referenced in a linked article. Participants explore its implications in mathematical logic and notation, focusing on its application and interpretation in specific cases.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the meaning of the symbol Vdash in a specific theorem.
  • Another participant asserts that Vdash is the negation of a related symbol and indicates that it means "entails."
  • A participant references Wikipedia's description of Vdash, noting that it states "A Vdash B means the sentence A entails the sentence B," but expresses confusion about its application to the example provided.
  • One participant suggests that the definition might exclude certain cases, specifically n=k=0.
  • A later reply attempts to reverse engineer the notation, proposing a translation into conditional statements but acknowledges a lack of understanding of other notations involved.
  • Another participant suggests contacting the author of the article for clarification.
  • The idea of a potential typo in the article is mentioned, prompting a participant to indicate they have emailed the author for further clarification.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the application of the Vdash symbol and its implications in the context provided. There is no consensus on its interpretation, and multiple viewpoints are presented without resolution.

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Participants note confusion regarding the notation and its application, indicating that additional context or definitions may be necessary for full understanding.

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I would like to know what this symbol means:[tex]\nVdash[/tex]Specifically, in the main result of [link] (Theorem 1, at the top of p.4), it has:[tex]\nVdash(n=k=0)[/tex]
 
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It is negation of [tex]\Vdash[/tex] and the latter means "entails".
 
voko said:
It is negation of [tex]\Vdash[/tex] and the latter means "entails".
Yes, I saw the [itex]\Vdash[/itex] symbol listed as "entails" in Wikipedia's list of mathematical symbols. However, in that article, the explanation is "A [itex]\Vdash[/itex] B means the sentence A entails the sentence B, that is in every model in which A is true, B is also true."

I can't see how that applies to my example (which is not in the form[itex]A \nVdash B[/itex]).
 
How about : the cases described are excluded, i.e., the definition excludes the

cases n=k=0 ?
 
Bacle2 said:
How about : the cases described are excluded, i.e., the definition excludes the

cases n=k=0 ?
This still does not seem to make sense in the given context. The relevant phrase in full is:[tex]\mathrm{where \ } R_{n,0,k}(x) \ := \ \nVdash(n=k=0), \ \ R_{n,j,0} \ := \ \nVdash(n=j) \mathrm{ \ \ and \ \ } R_{n,j,k} \ := \ 0 \ \mathrm{else}[/tex]
 
I've spent a long time trying to reverse engineer the phrase. My best guess is that the whole phrase (see previous post) could translate into the following two statements:

[tex]R_{n,0,k}=\left\{ <br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 1, \\ <br /> 0,<br /> \end{array}<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> \text{if }n=k=0 \\ <br /> \text{otherwise}<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right.[/tex]
[tex]R_{n,j,0}=\left\{ <br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> 1, \\ <br /> 0,<br /> \end{array}<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> \text{if }n=j \\ <br /> \text{otherwise}<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right.[/tex]
Even if this is correct, there are other bits of notation that I don't understand... but I suppose I should start a new thread, as this one seems pretty dead.
 
Why don't you get in touch with the author of the article?
 
voko said:
Why don't you get in touch with the author of the article?

Good idea. It looks like a typo. So you should ask the author.
 
voko said:
Why don't you get in touch with the author of the article?
Yeah, I've E-mailed the author... fingers crossed that I get a reply, I suppose.
 

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