What does this vector notation mean?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the vector notation φ(a,b), specifically focusing on the meaning of the notation in the context of angles between vectors in a mathematical setting. Participants seek clarification on the notation without delving into proofs or deeper theoretical implications.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that φ(a,b) denotes the angle φ between the vectors a and b, emphasizing that the notation is a precise way to express this relationship.
  • Others mention that the notation serves as a rigorous way to indicate that the angle depends on the specific vectors involved and their order.
  • One participant provides additional context about vector length, stating that if a vector is represented in coordinates, its length squared can be expressed using the theorem of Pythagoras.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of φ(a,b) as a notation for the angle between vectors a and b, but there is no indication of a broader consensus on any additional implications or uses of the notation.

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The discussion does not address potential limitations or assumptions regarding the notation or its application in different contexts.

Yealtas
Hello,

I'm currently doing vectors in class, but I don't know what these parts mean.

Especially φ(a,b). I understand cos(φ), but I don't understand cos(φ(a,b)). φ is the angle between two vectors a and b, but what does the (a,b) part add?

I tried to google, but I couldn't really find anything helpful. Again, I'm not interested in proof or anything of the likes right now. For now I am just trying to decipher the symbols so I understand what I am doing.

Thanks in advance for the help.
 
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The (##\vec a, \vec b##) part just informs someone that the angle φ is the angle between the vectors a and b (without the obligation to write it in words) as you correctly said.
 
Yealtas said:
Hello,

I'm currently doing vectors in class, but I don't know what these parts mean.

Especially φ(a,b). I understand cos(φ), but I don't understand cos(φ(a,b)). φ is the angle between two vectors a and b, but what does the (a,b) part add?
It is simply rigor. ##\varphi (\vec{a},\vec{b})## is what you wrote: angle ##\varphi ## between ##\vec{a}## and ##\vec{b}##. As the angle depends on the vectors, and the order, it is simply the precise way to write it, so ##\varphi = \varphi (\vec{a},\vec{b})##.
I tried to google, but I couldn't really find anything helpful. Again, I'm not interested in proof or anything of the likes right now. For now I am just trying to decipher the symbols so I understand what I am doing.

Thanks in advance for the help.
The other marked notation means: If ##\vec{a}=(a_1,\ldots ,a_n)## in coordinates, then for the length of the vector ##|\vec{a}|^2 = a_1^2+\ldots + a_n^2##. It's the theorem of Pythagoras.
 
DoItForYourself said:
The (##\vec a, \vec b##) part just informs someone that the angle φ is the angle between the vectors a and b (without the obligation to write it in words) as you correctly said.
fresh_42 said:
It is simply rigor. ##\varphi (\vec{a},\vec{b})## is what you wrote: angle ##\varphi ## between ##\vec{a}## and ##\vec{b}##. As the angle depends on the vectors, and the order, it is simply the precise way to write it, so ##\varphi = \varphi (\vec{a},\vec{b})##.

The other marked notation means: If ##\vec{a}=(a_1,\ldots ,a_n)## in coordinates, then for the length of the vector ##|\vec{a}|^2 = a_1^2+\ldots + a_n^2##. It's the theorem of Pythagoras.

Thanks, both of you. :)
 

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