What Happens Inside a Black Hole Beyond the Event Horizon?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of black holes, particularly what occurs inside a black hole beyond the event horizon. Participants explore theoretical scenarios, the effects of gravity, and the implications of being inside a black hole, touching on concepts from physics and speculative ideas about dimensions and perceptions.

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  • One participant wonders what would happen if someone could enter a black hole without experiencing fatal effects, questioning whether they would encounter nothingness, teleportation, or time travel.
  • Another participant asserts that one would not be able to distinguish between being inside or outside the event horizon without calculations, emphasizing the inevitability of reaching the singularity.
  • Several participants share links to simulations and visualizations of falling into a black hole, suggesting resources for better understanding the phenomenon.
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of "inside" a black hole, with one participant clarifying that it typically refers to being within the event horizon, while another mentions that one could survive crossing the event horizon in a supermassive black hole.
  • Some participants express the idea that a black hole could be conceptualized as a deep hole or a distortion of dimensions, with one participant speculating about the possibility of being in another dimension or universe.
  • Concerns are raised about the perception of light and visibility inside a black hole, with conflicting views on whether one could see anything beyond the event horizon.
  • One participant humorously concludes that all there is in a black hole is death, while others reflect on the nature of black holes as boundaries of known physics.

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Participants express a variety of views on the nature of black holes, with no clear consensus on what occurs inside them. Some agree on the inevitability of reaching the singularity, while others propose speculative ideas about dimensions and visibility within a black hole.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of their understanding and the speculative nature of their claims, particularly regarding the effects of gravity and light inside a black hole. The discussion includes references to various interpretations and assumptions about black holes.

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I was wondering about black holes.

If you could some how go inside a black hole without dieing, being turned into a spaghetti, become part of the black hole, or anything else of that sort. Would there be absolutly nothing around you, would you teleport, or go back in time. What would happen?

I know this question is absolutly ridiculous and i know I explained it poorly.
But... I just want to know what's inside a black hole.

Thanks for reading my post :)
 
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Neglecting all those unpleasant effects you described, you wouldn't be able to tell whether you were inside or outside the event horizon of a black hole (unless you did some calculation, or tried to get out of it). You would just continue to move to the center of the black hole, where there would be some singularity which would inevitably destroy you. That's all.

The funny thing is, that if you tried to get out (or actually stop free-falling, so accelerate in any way whatsoever) it would happen sooner.
 
Tere is some software to simulate the fall into it?
 
google "andrew hamilton"

the first hit should be the homepage of a guy at UC Boulder who has some animations and graphics like this:
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/singularity.html

AFAIK he doesn't have software to download but he has stuff to watch
 
Here's another webpage by CASA (Centre for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy) which appears to add graphics to Hamiltons simulations-

http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/index.html

Steve
 
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Just for clarity, it should be noted that 'inside' a black hole is usually construed as meaning inside the event horizon. There is no 'inside' to the singularity. Stick with supermassive black holes if you elect to carry out this rather one sided experiment. You could pass through the event horizon without being pasta-fied in a really big one.
 
I always thought that a black hole was litterally a black flat infinitly deep hole.

Thanks for the links and answer to my question:)

So in conclusion all there is in a black hole is death.
 
You end up in another dimension ? Another universe?
 
If you ended up in the tenth dimension that would be weird because you would be like god.
 
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If you can't tell if you were inside or outside of a black hole, wouldn't that mean that you're in another dimension? The human mind isn't wired to perceive objects in other dimensions. Also a black hole may just be a fourth dimensional object passing through the third dimension. But honestly, I have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm a 14 year old kid who can't fall asleep.
 
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super_kangaro said:
I always thought that a black hole was litterally a black flat infinitly deep hole.

So in conclusion all there is in a black hole is death.
Just think of a black hole as a hole in three dimensions.

And yes, a black hole is just death :P
Death and the edge of known physics.
 
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Chronos said:
You could pass through the event horizon without being pasta-fied in a really big one.

Disclaimer: once you pass through the event-horizon though, you will inevitably be drawn closer to the singularity, and you will be pasta-fied. (Don't try to avoid it, you will only make it happen sooner). So don't try this at home!
 
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super_kangaro said:
I always thought that a black hole was litterally a black flat infinitly deep hole.
From a distance outside, the event horizon will appear like a black sphere. It will bend light around it. See the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole" for a rendering of this.
An interesting thing is that, as you approach the black hole, the light distortion will make it appear that the event horizon is swallowing you up. At 1.5 Schwarzschild radius, the event horizon will appear like a level horizon. Closer than this, and the incoming light shrinks to a smaller disk.
Note that inside of a black hole is not all black, you can still see things, though highly distorted.
CompuChip said:
Disclaimer: once you pass through the event-horizon though, you will inevitably be drawn closer to the singularity, and you will be pasta-fied. (Don't try to avoid it, you will only make it happen sooner). So don't try this at home!
If you try this at home, the black hole will suck up Earth.
 
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Note that inside of a black hole is not all black, you can still see things, though highly distorted.

Are you sure of this?
 
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Drakkith said:
Are you sure of this?
This site has some line-diagram-renderings of falling into a black hole.
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/singularity.html
It addresses that when inside a black hole, you can still see the outside universe.
 
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FtlIsAwesome said:
This site has some line-diagram-renderings of falling into a black hole.
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/singularity.html
It addresses that when inside a black hole, you can still see the outside universe.

Oh ok, I see what you're talking about.
 

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