What is a theory and how does it relate to the universe?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a theory as described by Stephen Hawking, particularly in relation to its definition, components, and implications in the context of the universe. Participants explore the nature of theories, the significance of rules and quantities, and the process of disproving a theory through observations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on Hawking's definition of a theory, specifically regarding what constitutes rules and quantities.
  • Another participant uses Newton's theory of gravitation as an example to explain the concepts of restrictions, quantities, and observations in Hawking's terms.
  • A participant emphasizes that the terminology used to describe Newton's theory is less important than the underlying mathematical relationships, citing specific equations.
  • This participant also discusses a prediction of Newton's theory regarding the behavior of objects in a vacuum, illustrating it with a proposed experiment involving a feather and a lead ball.
  • Another participant defines observations as measurements of quantities and describes rules as mathematical equations relating those quantities, suggesting a top-down approach to defining a theory.
  • This participant notes that the process of translating observations into equations is an interpretation of the model, highlighting the philosophical aspects of defining a theory.

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Participants express varying interpretations of the definition of a theory and its components, indicating that multiple competing views remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the precise nature of theories or the implications of Hawking's statements.

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Some participants' definitions and interpretations depend on specific philosophical perspectives, and there are unresolved nuances regarding the relationship between observations, rules, and theories.

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I was reading brief history of time by hawking and there I stuck on this line “A theory is a model of universe or a restricted part of it and a set of rules that relate quantities in the model to observations we make.” What is it saying? Please elaborate. What are rules and quantities ? Also “You can disprove a theory by finding even a single observation that disagree with the predictions of the theory.” What is this prediction ?
 
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Think of Newton's theory of gravitation. Now explain it to me in Hawking's terms: restrictions ,quantities, observations.
 
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rudransh verma said:
I was reading brief history of time by hawking and there I stuck on this line “A theory is a model of universe or a restricted part of it and a set of rules that relate quantities in the model to observations we make.” What is it saying? Please elaborate. What are rules and quantities ? Also “You can disprove a theory by finding even a single observation that disagree with the predictions of the theory.” What is this prediction ?
The label we put on something is not very important. Whether we call it Newton's Theory of Gravity, Newton's Law of Gravity or the Newtonian model of Gravity doesn't matter. It's still ##F=\frac{Gm_1m_2}{r^2}## and ##F=ma## regardless.

This theory of gravity predicts that in the absence of other effects all objects fall at the same rate. So one prediction of the theory is that if we set up a bell jar with a vacuum and if we arrange to drop a feather and a lead ball in the jar at the same time, they should hit the bottom at the same time. If we perform this experiment and observe that the two do not land at the same time, that would contradict the theory of gravity.

Of course, one would want to look carefully for confounding factors before accepting an experimental result which is so starkly in conflict with this particular theory. See this Wiki article (the OPERA faster-than-light neutrinos) for a real-life experiment in which confounding factors existed.
 
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rudransh verma said:
I was reading brief history of time by hawking and there I stuck on this line “A theory is a model of universe or a restricted part of it and a set of rules that relate quantities in the model to observations we make.” What is it saying? Please elaborate. What are rules and quantities ? Also “You can disprove a theory by finding even a single observation that disagree with the predictions of the theory.” What is this prediction ?
An observation is a measurement of a quantity.
Rules are mathematical equations with those quantities as variables, e.g. their behavior with respect to the quantity time.
All rules (equations) which contain a certain given set of observations (measurement and variables) build a theory.

If we define theory top-down, and not bottom-up what I just did, then we consider a part of the universe, collect all related quantities, measure them (or try to), and find equations among them (or try to).

In the end, we have a mathematical framework, that describes the part of the universe we started with as a model. The translation process between observations and equations is an interpretation of that model.

Theory is primarily only a word. I attempted to describe it by its normal use. A philosopher would write a book about what I just put in a few lines. I would add that Sir Charles Popper did, however, I do not really want to recommend that book.
 
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