What is a Unitary Ball and How Do Different Metrics Shape Its Form?

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The discussion centers on the concept of a unitary ball, specifically how different metrics influence its shape. Participants explore the definition of a unit ball in various metric spaces and consider examples to illustrate the implications of using different distance functions.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of a "unitary ball" and seeks clarification on its meaning in relation to a specific metric.
  • Another participant clarifies that a unit ball refers to a ball of radius 1 in a given metric space, providing a formal definition.
  • A participant attempts to express the unit ball for the max metric and engages in a mathematical exploration of its implications.
  • Suggestions are made to consider simple examples to better understand the shape of the unit ball in different dimensions.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the shape of the unit ball when using the max function as the distance metric.
  • Another participant notes that using the max function results in a square or cube shape in higher dimensions, contrasting with the spherical shape typically associated with the Euclidean metric.
  • A participant highlights that while the usual distance function leads to spherical shapes, alternative metrics can yield different geometric forms for unit balls.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the shape of the unit ball depending on the chosen metric, indicating that there is no consensus on a single shape applicable to all metrics discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various distance functions and their effects on the shape of unit balls, but the discussion does not resolve the implications of these differences fully. There are also assumptions about the dimensionality of the space that are not explicitly stated.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying metric spaces, geometry, or related fields in mathematics and physics, particularly in understanding how different metrics can influence geometric properties.

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I don't know anything about Unitary Ball

what is a Unitary ball? how make a unitary ball consider to a metric
(example: d(x,y) = max |xi-yi|)
 
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Probably you mean "unit ball". This only means "a ball of radius 1". So, if (X,d) is a metric space, and x is a point in X, then the unit ball in (X,d) entered around x is the set

B(x;1) = {y in X | d(x,y)<1}
 
Thank you qusar987

so unit ball for d(x,y) = max |xi-yi| => B(x,1)= {y in x | maxi |xi-yi|<1}

maxi |xi-yi|<1 => |xi-yi|<1 => -1 <xi-yi<1 => 0<= xi-yi <1 => maxi (xi-yi)< 1

a circle by radius 1?
 
Why don't you try some simple examples, e.g., with xi=0, for xi real, then for xi in
R^2?
 
thank you Balce2

i want it for a paper about friction
 
If you use the max function as your distance function, then I think the "unit ball" is actually a square/cube/whatever you call one in higher dimensions.
 
Thank you Matterwave

my answer for find unit ball is wrong?

so i exactly can't recognize that unit ball will get which shape?
 
The usual distance function on R^n is d^2=sqrt(x^2+y^2+...), but that's not the only one you can use. You can certainly use your max function distance function.

The terminology "unit balls" comes from the usual distance function in which case, in 3-D you would get "balls". If you use other distance functions, you can get different shapes for your "unit balls".
 

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