What is atomic concentration and how can it be found for different elements?

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The discussion centers around the concept of atomic concentration, specifically its definition and how it can be calculated for different elements, including its application in alloys. Participants seek clarification on the term and its representation in scientific literature.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the definition of atomic concentration and whether alternative terminology exists.
  • Another participant defines atomic concentration as the ratio of the number of atoms of a specific element to the total number of atoms, noting that for pure elements, this ratio is 100%.
  • A participant questions the presence of units in atomic concentration, referencing a specific alloy and its reported atomic concentrations, suggesting a potential misunderstanding of the term as a ratio.
  • In response, a participant explains that the reported atomic concentrations can be derived from mass density divided by atomic weight, multiplied by Avogadro's number, indicating a method of reporting concentration rather than a simple ratio.

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Participants express differing views on the definition and representation of atomic concentration, with some clarifying its calculation while others question the consistency of its units. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the terminology and its implications.

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There are unresolved questions about the definitions and units associated with atomic concentration, as well as the assumptions underlying the calculations presented.

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Hello everyone.

Just a quick question: Could somebody explain to me what atomic concentration is, and whether there is a list of all the atomic concentration of the elements somewhere in the internet.

The 1st time I heard the term, I typed it on wikipedia and google, surprisingly the search did not come out with a straight answer of what it is. Is there another word for it?

Thank you in advance.
 
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The atomic concentration of X is the ratio of the number of atoms of X to the total number of atoms. The atomic concentration of any pure element is 100%.
 
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Dear Mapes,

Thank you for your feedback. However, I am reading a paper stating that a Fe90Zr10 alloy has an atomic concentration of Fe: 8.5x10^28 m^-3 and Zr: 4.29x10^28 m^-3

If it is a ratio, why is there a unit, and how did they come up with the estimated values above?
 
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Dear Mapes,

Thank you for your feedback. However, I am reading a paper stating that a Fe90Zr10 alloy has an atomic concentration of Fe: 8.5x10^28 m^-3 and Zr: 4.29x10^28 m^-3

If it is a ratio, why is there a unit, and how did they come up with the estimated values above?

OK, this is also a way of reporting concentration. They're dividing the mass density (kg m-3) by the atomic weight (g mol-1) and multiplying by Avogadro's number (6.022 x 1023 atoms mol-1). Does this help?
 
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Yup, very much! thanks again.
 

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