What is CAT State? Explaining Beryllium Experiments

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "cat states" in quantum physics, particularly in relation to experiments involving beryllium atoms. Participants seek to clarify the meaning of cat states, their implications in quantum mechanics, and the specific experiments mentioned in a news article.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about the term "cat state" and requests clarification regarding its meaning and the related beryllium experiments.
  • Another participant suggests that the term "cloud" likely refers to a Bose-Einstein Condensate and connects "cat state" to Schrödinger's cat, a well-known quantum concept.
  • A third participant provides a technical definition of a cat state in quantum optics as a superposition of two coherent states, represented mathematically.
  • Another participant agrees that a cat state refers to a superposition of states and provides an example involving ammonia molecules, noting the uncertainty of the nitrogen's position without measurement.

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Participants generally agree on the connection between cat states and superposition in quantum mechanics, but there is no consensus on the specifics of the beryllium experiments or the implications of these states.

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Some participants reference specific quantum concepts and examples, but the discussion lacks detailed explanations of the underlying physics and the experimental setup involving beryllium atoms.

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i read somewhere about some scientists putting beryllium atoms in CAT state
i don't know what it is
could anyone tell me?
thank you

heres what i read :

Quoting the news item in a non-flowery language -

" this fall, a team of scientists, led by dietrich leibfried, at National Institute of Standards and Technology in Boulder ,Colarado has put half a dozen beryllium atoms in " cat state" - a condition of being in two diametrically opposed conditions at once . these atoms were spinninbg clockwise and counter clockwise at the same time..."

[ came in a newspaper on 25th december ,2005]

there was some more
but i didnt understand it
about some atom cloud or electron cloud or something
could anyone explain these experiments to me??
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Probably better in the physics forum.

The cloud would be a Boise-Einstein Condensate.
The cat refers to Schrödinger's cat - a quantum physics concept.

There is lots of info on the web, if you look up those keywords
Good luck with that.
 
A cat state in quantum optics is a special superposition of two coherent states:

[tex]\vert \psi \rangle = \vert \alpha \rangle + \vert - \alpha \rangle [\tex][/tex]
 
Agreed, cat state refers to a superposition of states, like Schrodingers cat.

For instance Ammonia molecules can be in "cat" states. The nitrogen can be on one side or the other of the H3's and you cannot know which without checking.
 

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